Flashing high beams at other drivers

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Originally Posted By: gfh77665
When I read the title I immediately thought of the oncoming vehicles with HID headlights. Anytime I encounter a punk with the HID's, I light 'em up with my high beams.

I am sick and tired of being blinded in normal driving, so I have done this since the craze began roughly 5 years ago. It really ticks them off.
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I hear them lay on their horns sometimes!
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I don't mind the HIDs so much, it's those dam DRLs located underneath the headlights that are so bad...some of them are actually brighter than their headlights...why are they even on with the headlights anyway, aren't DRLs supposed to be for the daytime?
 
Originally Posted By: andrewg
So many on here seem to think that the left is for ANYBODY that wants to pass cars....CONTINUOUSLY.... as opposed to using the left lane legally TO PASS a slower moving vehicle in the right lane.

People here are complaining that the left is for passing. That is true. But what the left lane IS NOT for is going however fast you want to go....staying in that lane continuously...and flashing anybody that doesn't go as fast as you'd like.

It's as though it's convenient to bring up the left lane laws for your own selfish needs....yet ignore the law about speed limits.

From what I understand you can momentarily exceed the speed limit....TO PASS a slower vehicle. But that doesn't have A THING to do with driving for miles in the left lane, over the speed limit, and flashing people to get out of the way.

Funny thing when I drive to work and watch these rude types that think they own the road....they are ever so bold and pushy....until a cop is near. Then SUDDENLY...they drive like they know they should. Courteous, no tailgating, use signals, and no speeding.

Hypocrites.


Must be part of today's entitlement society who think they can do whatever they want, even if it's illegal...they are entitled to drive as fast as they want so you better get outta their way...
 
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
dlundblad said:
I would think it'd be just as easy for the flasher to pass someone in the right lane..

It might be easy, but it is illegal in many states.

So is speeding...and that's in ALL states...
 
Originally Posted By: DBMaster
Thought you all might appreciate this.

Slow poke tickets

My mother got such a ticket on a Detroit freeway some 50 years ago.

About the link. No new laws are needed. Just apply existing laws.
 
Correct, no new laws are needed. These kinds of tickets just require more effort to issue than speeding tickets so the cost/benefit ratio is lacking.
 
Stay right except to pass. It's simple.

Move over to avoid merging traffic? Be courteous enough to try to match the speed of the vehicles in the left lane. Then return promptly to the right lane.

Driving safely while respecting others trying to use the road is the point.

Getting your head out of your [censored] when you are driving makes all this much easier.
 
Originally Posted By: supton
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: eljefino
And seriously, changing lanes takes very little physical effort, turning a power assisted wheel, pressing a spring loaded pedal, and rotating one's head for an all-clear.

And don't forget about using your indicators.


I think those are illegal in New England, or maybe all of the Northeast.


I hang my finger off the wheel and catch the turn signal stalk while I'm moving the wheel in the process of merging.

I'm announcing that it's happening. I've already done the technical legwork of ensuring the lane's clear. I'm not asking permission.
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It's important to do, as someone two lanes over might simultaneously want that middle lane.
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino
I hang my finger off the wheel and catch the turn signal stalk while I'm moving the wheel in the process of merging.

I'm announcing that it's happening
. I've already done the technical legwork of ensuring the lane's clear. I'm not asking permission.
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It's important to do, as someone two lanes over might simultaneously want that middle lane.

I turn on the signal 1-2 seconds before I change lane, after making sure that lane is empty for at least 3-4 car lengths and no car is approaching fast.

Whenever I change lane I worry about someone two lanes over might simultaneously want that middle lane. That why I have side view mirrors adjusted very far wide to catch vehicle(s) on 2 lanes over about 2-3 car lengths back.
 
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Be courteous enough to try to match the speed of the vehicles in the left lane. Then return promptly to the right lane.


You're living in a dream world. Around here, when they want to move over they just do it. No worries for them if another vehicle was approaching to their left at a faster speed. They should just be able to do whatever they want. Then, forget your turn signal is on and leave it that way for miles. Eventually, move back to the right while still blinking your left turn signal.

They need navel windows around here!
 
Originally Posted By: DBMaster
Originally Posted By: SilverC6
Be courteous enough to try to match the speed of the vehicles in the left lane. Then return promptly to the right lane.


You're living in a dream world. Around here, when they want to move over they just do it. No worries for them if another vehicle was approaching to their left at a faster speed. They should just be able to do whatever they want. Then, forget your turn signal is on and leave it that way for miles. Eventually, move back to the right while still blinking your left turn signal.

They need navel windows around here!


Navel windows, that's hilarious!
 
I find the whole thing quite interesting. You have states increasing speed limits right and left, meanwhile, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration is going to publish this year what it wants commercial trucks speed limited to via engine ECM settings. Not posted yet, but everyone in trucking expects max speed limiter settings will be 65 mph. Now you will have that one truck that can managed to go 1 mph faster than the other truck for whatever reason, and they are going to be involved in a turtle race down the freeway for a few miles, choking up any and every one behind them. Oh well, the public wanted this, they are getting it soon, and they get to live with the consequences. Even though DOT statistics show that in accidents involving commercial trucks and autos, the auto is at fault over 80% of the time.

Fast forward. Getting a ticket for driving too slow in the left lane? But the truck is speed limited by Federal regulation and can't go any faster! And the 65 mph truck was passing the 63 mph truck. This ought to be a lot of fun. But it is already happening. Many carriers have voluntarily set speed limiters in ECM's tp 65, 63, 62, 60, whatever. Really a joy to get behind these guys doing a turtle race passing each other. The idiot in the right lane isn't about to drop off 1 or 2 mph and let the other guy go around quicker. No sir. They are going as fast as they can go and they aren't about to slow down one bit. So you have two truckers with the same mindset, both in speed limited trucks, choking up the freeway because each of their ego's will not let them be reasonable.


Fortunately, I have the ECM in my commercial truck "tweaked" that whatever setting the speed limiter is set at, it will run up to 10 mph over that and is undetectable if anyone like a government dweeb plugs into the ECM and checks.
 
There are some highways in this area that have signage stating "No Trucks in Left Lane." Assuming they obey the signs, that's one way to handle it.

Anyone ever driven the Northern or Southern State Parkways in Long Island? I love those roads when the traffic is light - no trucks allowed, period.
 
Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
I find the whole thing quite interesting. You have states increasing speed limits right and left, meanwhile, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration is going to publish this year what it wants commercial trucks speed limited to via engine ECM settings. Not posted yet, but everyone in trucking expects max speed limiter settings will be 65 mph. Now you will have that one truck that can managed to go 1 mph faster than the other truck for whatever reason, and they are going to be involved in a turtle race down the freeway for a few miles, choking up any and every one behind them. Oh well, the public wanted this, they are getting it soon, and they get to live with the consequences. Even though DOT statistics show that in accidents involving commercial trucks and autos, the auto is at fault over 80% of the time.

Fast forward. Getting a ticket for driving too slow in the left lane? But the truck is speed limited by Federal regulation and can't go any faster! And the 65 mph truck was passing the 63 mph truck. This ought to be a lot of fun. But it is already happening. Many carriers have voluntarily set speed limiters in ECM's tp 65, 63, 62, 60, whatever. Really a joy to get behind these guys doing a turtle race passing each other. The idiot in the right lane isn't about to drop off 1 or 2 mph and let the other guy go around quicker. No sir. They are going as fast as they can go and they aren't about to slow down one bit. So you have two truckers with the same mindset, both in speed limited trucks, choking up the freeway because each of their ego's will not let them be reasonable.


Fortunately, I have the ECM in my commercial truck "tweaked" that whatever setting the speed limiter is set at, it will run up to 10 mph over that and is undetectable if anyone like a government dweeb plugs into the ECM and checks.


There's an easy solution to this, but unfortunately truckers will not do it. If semi A is doing 64 MPH, and semi B is doing 65 MPH and is behind semi A, the driver of semi B should wait until there are no faster moving vehicles coming up from behind him to pass before he passes semi A...but I can tell by the way truckers drive now that they will never do this...truckers now don't care one iota about how many drivers they hold up when they pass other semis...even when they are going less than 1 mph faster than the semi they are passing...they could very easily slow down 1/2 MPH and stay in the right lane until they can pass without holding up other drivers, but they won't...that's why I say LE should be ticketing these drivers for unnecessarily impeding traffic flow...this change isn't going to change a thing...truckers will still be holding up hoards of traffic to pass other semis...
 
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Originally Posted By: DBMaster
There are some highways in this area that have signage stating "No Trucks in Left Lane." Assuming they obey the signs, that's one way to handle it.

Anyone ever driven the Northern or Southern State Parkways in Long Island? I love those roads when the traffic is light - no trucks allowed, period.


It's also well known throughout the industry that semis aren't supposed to be in the far left lane when there are more than two lanes on a freeway, and yet I see them in that lane quite often...LE is just not around enough to curtail this kind of stuff...
 
On I35 through Texas I think there is just too much traffic now for them to be willing to wait until the left lane is clear before they jump out and pass. They do it on UPHILL stretches, too, when they actually lose speed. I recall hearing once that semi drivers used to sit out morning and evening rush hours to have an easier drive and use less fuel. Now that I35 in Texas in under perpetual construction and rush "hours" last three hours at a time they don't have much choice. Add that to the fact that the ongoing shortage of drivers means that many are not that experienced.

If we do not start making the changes now for future mobility we are doomed to sit in L.A. style gridlock in just about every metro area.
 
Originally Posted By: mclasser
Saw this happening the other day in a rain storm out on the highway. This is one of my greatest pet peeves when driving and is the hallmark of a d-bag driver. The driver comes up speeding behind you and aggressively flashes their brights to scare you into getting out of their way. Seen this happen in lanes besides the left lane as well. It doesn't only happen if the guy in front is going a little slow; the d-bag uses it as a way to clear out the lane for himself because he is too important to have to change lanes and go around. I've also seen some drivers overtake other cars, come back in front of them and turn on their hazards/turn signal as a message that the other driver was going too "slow."

End rant.


Stay in the right lane unless you are passing,. Works on the Autobahn. I think people that drive in the far left lane, when the right lane is empty are the real idiots.
 
Originally Posted By: DBMaster
If we do not start making the changes now for future mobility we are doomed to sit in L.A. style gridlock in just about every metro area.

We have no gridlock in LA and surrounding area. We have a fairly long parking lot of about 80-100 miles from Central Orange County to North of LA, 18-20 hours a day 7 days a week.

And we have another parking lot about 60 miles from South Orange County to San Diego.
 
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