First Timer With AMSOIL

I got a good price and wanted to try out their extended service. 7k miles interval. I have seen other filters fail the light leaf spring test. Most all filters today have some kind of issues.
MicroGard Select and Mobil 1 Extended Performance are my go to regularly. Purchased some AMSOIL products and I got 6 filters. Not the end of an engine or the world for that matter
Certainly not the end of the world, but if the goal is repeatability of extended OCIs then having questions on efficiency rating having a decline significantly; due to the bypassing of unfiltered oil, isn’t lining up your goals.

Therefore, it’s likely to be in the best interests of the vehicles long-term health to maybe just use another filter that does the job with immaculate construction these days; which they do exist such as the other filters you mentioned.

I wouldn’t necessarily mind running these Amsoil filters for shorter intervals in a pinch, but it’s hard to excuse if I’m extending the intervals.

Why? At a minimum, the number of times this unfiltered oil; and therefore particles, get passed through the engine before being picked up is now an unknown. If the defect wasn’t present, I’d know and have more peace of mind that the filtering performance lines with the goal of extending the interval.

Amsoil themselves are saying this is an issue they are aware of, but since they don’t make their filters, it takes more steps to address; plus the parent company in question has gone bankrupt. It’s a mess.

The oil itself should serve your vehicles well.
 
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I got a good price and wanted to try out their extended service. 7k miles interval. I have seen other filters fail the light leaf spring test. Most all filters today have some kind of issues.
MicroGard Select and Mobil 1 Extended Performance are my go to regularly. Purchased some AMSOIL products and I got 6 filters. Not the end of an engine or the world for that matter

No, not the end of the world, but the three I cut apart had flaws that essentially if you added up all the internally leaking area you might as well just drilled a quarter inch diameter hole straight through the media cause that’s how big of a hole you have leaking unfiltered oil

But hey, you do you if you’re fine with a flaw with your filter, allowing oil to bypass the filter, media completely unfiltered more power to you, Sir
 
What's so stark is the quality of the new breed of oil filter is apparently universally accepted as unquestionably superior.
Hey, better is better.

Yesterday's common or average filters should be used for oil flush cleanup jobs (1,000 mile).
 
I got a good price and wanted to try out their extended service. 7k miles interval. I have seen other filters fail the light leaf spring test. Most all filters today have some kind of issues.
MicroGard Select and Mobil 1 Extended Performance are my go to regularly. Purchased some AMSOIL products and I got 6 filters. Not the end of an engine or the world for that matter
No reason to give a company our money that is making crap products though, especially with the quality and filtering specs of STP XL, Microguard Select, and the carquest offering. I love Amsoil, use a lot of their products, however, those oil filters are vastly overpriced even if they were made correctly.
 
No reason to give a company our money that is making crap products though, especially with the quality and filtering specs of STP XL, Microguard Select, and the carquest offering. I love Amsoil, use a lot of their products, however, those oil filters are vastly overpriced even if they were made correctly.
Not if they are used correctly. The OG FRAM Ultra was gem, providing true depth filtration, using the same process employed by HD truck filter manufacturers like Fleetguard and Donaldson. The original EaO was using Donaldson media, but eventually ended up becoming a Champ labs synthetic media product and is now the same filter as the RP and FRAM Endurance, and it's certainly not worth a premium over those two, but I would argue would have been, back when it had the Donaldson media.

IF, and it's a big if, AMSOIL gets its ass in gear and we end up with a Fleetguard Nanonet filter or something, then that would once again be worth a premium over the other offerings on the market, but this would also require using it correctly (extended OCI's) to get the full value out of the purchase, which a lot of folks don't do, and didn't do, even when the filter was actually better than its peers.
 
Not if they are used correctly. The OG FRAM Ultra was gem, providing true depth filtration, using the same process employed by HD truck filter manufacturers like Fleetguard and Donaldson. The original EaO was using Donaldson media, but eventually ended up becoming a Champ labs synthetic media product and is now the same filter as the RP and FRAM Endurance, and it's certainly not worth a premium over those two, but I would argue would have been, back when it had the Donaldson media.

IF, and it's a big if, AMSOIL gets its ass in gear and we end up with a Fleetguard Nanonet filter or something, then that would once again be worth a premium over the other offerings on the market, but this would also require using it correctly (extended OCI's) to get the full value out of the purchase, which a lot of folks don't do, and didn't do, even when the filter was actually better than its peers.
Yes, when they get their act together or change manufacturers I will be back onboard. I agree, if they truly have a premium filter then its absolutely worth it, right now, they don't. I would imagine Amsoil is working quietly to fix their issue because they value their reputation. We could only hope they go back to Donaldson filters.
 
No reason to give a company our money that is making crap products though, especially with the quality and filtering specs of STP XL, Microguard Select, and the carquest offering. I love Amsoil, use a lot of their products, however, those oil filters are vastly overpriced even if they were made correctly.
Yes, they are overpriced and I had extra funds to splurge on some AMSOIL products. Such a big deal over a small purchase, I don't understand the hostility towards AMSOIL in particular. Not you in particular, just in general, it's sad. We're talking oil and filters when it comes down to it.
 
No, not the end of the world, but the three I cut apart had flaws that essentially if you added up all the internally leaking area you might as well just drilled a quarter inch diameter hole straight through the media cause that’s how big of a hole you have leaking unfiltered oil

But hey, you do you if you’re fine with a flaw with your filter, allowing oil to bypass the filter, media completely unfiltered more power to you, Sir
I sir, do not believe most of the filters falter this way. I don't believe it's as bad as some make it out to be. Amsoil wiping out engines with filters. It's my choice, appreciate the failure news.
It's my progative, explosive subject
 
Certainly not the end of the world, but if the goal is repeatability of extended OCIs then having questions on efficiency rating having a decline significantly; due to the bypassing of unfiltered oil, isn’t lining up your goals.

Therefore, it’s likely to be in the best interests of the vehicles long-term health to maybe just use another filter that does the job with immaculate construction these days; which they do exist such as the other filters you mentioned.

I wouldn’t necessarily mind running these Amsoil filters for shorter intervals in a pinch, but it’s hard to excuse if I’m extending the intervals.

Why? At a minimum, the number of times this unfiltered oil; and therefore particles, get passed through the engine before being picked up is now an unknown. If the defect wasn’t present, I’d know and have more peace of mind that the filtering performance lines with the goal of extending the interval.

Amsoil themselves are saying this is an issue they are aware of, but since they don’t make their filters, it takes more steps to address; plus the parent company in question has gone bankrupt. It’s a mess.

The oil itself should serve your vehicles well.
Please let me ask you, is it every single filter that has failed?
 
Picked up some side goodies too, fuel treatment with PEA, upper cylinder lubricant, some 2 stroke oil, 3 bottles of power steering fluid. Some gifts, some I paid for.
Are all those Amsoil products?
What 2-stroke oil did you get and for what purpose?
 
Yes, they are overpriced and I had extra funds to splurge on some AMSOIL products. Such a big deal over a small purchase, I don't understand the hostility towards AMSOIL in particular. Not you in particular, just in general, it's sad. We're talking oil and filters when it comes down to it.
I don think they are trying to be hostile towards Amsoil the oil is a fantastic product !
The oil filter on the other hand well you could do better for less money that's all !
 
I have been using the Amsoil oil filters for a collective 100k + miles between multiple vehicles. None have blown up yet. If they were that bad, I think I would have noticed by now. Especially doing quite a few used oil analysis and cutting most of them open. I have yet to see any issues when I cut them open.

@RobbS I would definitely use them with confidence.
 
I have been using the Amsoil oil filters for a collective 100k + miles between multiple vehicles. None have blown up yet. If they were that bad, I think I would have noticed by now. Especially doing quite a few used oil analysis and cutting most of them open. I have yet to see any issues when I cut them open.

@RobbS I would definitely use them with confidence.
I had a couple show up with basically closed louvers. AMSOIL sent me new ones which are a bit better; serviceable, but definitely not as good as I was hoping for. Still haven't run them.
 
I had a couple show up with basically closed louvers. AMSOIL sent me new ones which are a bit better; serviceable, but definitely not as good as I was hoping for. Still haven't run them.
Hmmm, do you cut open various filters on a regular basis.? I'd like to see some if not already posted.
 
Hmmm, do you cut open various filters on a regular basis.? I'd like to see some if not already posted.
Don't need to cut them to see the louvers in the centre tube thankfully, that can be done as part of a pre-inspection process. The leaf spring issues are unfortunately only discovered after you've used the filter, as it involves destroying the can.

 
Please let me ask you, is it every single filter that has failed?
It’s easily the majority, unfortunately. I’d say 2/3s is a rough ballpark as the floor and that may be conservative.

Amsoil typically has top shelf products; especially their entire lubricants portfolio.

The value with their currently labeled oil filters; made by Champ Labs (since they’ve been owned by First Brands), just isn’t there now with the defects.

And, other labels have jumped ship from poor manufacturing of oil filters, not only limited to Champ Labs.

Wix no longer makes the Napa Gold, for example. That, too, is made by PGI now. Mobil 1 Extended Performance swapped to them as well.

So, I’d be shocked if Amsoil doesn’t address the matter in a similar fashion.

Sorry to somewhat derail your thread, but this topic has been thoroughly covered in the oil filter sub-forum here.

If you do so choose, I know Amsoil will gladly refund your filter costs if you bring up the issue.

I was refunded after I reached out to Amsoil when I had questions over this issue and decided to email them the major thread in the oil filter sub-forums here that detailed and documented the issue as being widespread.

I was told to keep those filters and got my money back, but I chose not run them since I prefer to run extended OCIs.

Folks here just want to make sure you are well informed and getting your value for the investment. Amsoil is typically far and above very good, but like with any brand there can be situations like this; especially if you don’t manufacture the item directly.
 
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