FF5814 is it NanoNet media or not!?

[sdowney717]

The company site does not say Nanonet media under specifications.
https://www.fleetguard.com/s/productDetails?propertyVal=FF5814&propertyField=home&language=en_US

For filters ending in NN, they all say they are Nanonet media, click then click 'see related results'
https://www.fleetguard.com/s/search...Search=false&globalsearch=true&language=en_US


Other sites selling that filter say Nanonet and 2 micron, it is definitely not 2 micron it is 3 micron, so suspect info, fake news, bad information.
https://www.apredlinemotorsports.com/product-page/fleetguard-2-micron-nanonet-fuel-filter

 

[sdowney717]

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[fantastic]

Try reaching out to @NashNative

 

[frankbee3]

I have noticed some discrepancies with Fleetguard publications. I found similar information while researching oil filters.
I am still using Fleetguard products for my Ram Cummins, but I am finding your information on Caterpillar fuel filters to be more descriptive.

 

[NashNative]

I have noticed some discrepancies with Fleetguard publications. I found similar information while researching oil filters.
I am still using Fleetguard products for my Ram Cummins, but I am finding your information on Caterpillar fuel filters to be more descriptive.

The company site does not say Nanonet media under specifications.
https://www.fleetguard.com/s/productDetails?propertyVal=FF5814&propertyField=home&language=en_US

For filters ending in NN, they all say they are Nanonet media, click then click 'see related results'
https://www.fleetguard.com/s/search...Search=false&globalsearch=true&language=en_US


Other sites selling that filter say Nanonet and 2 micron, it is definitely not 2 micron it is 3 micron, so suspect info, fake news, bad information.
https://www.apredlinemotorsports.com/product-page/fleetguard-2-micron-nanonet-fuel-filter

Our external catalog is trash is the main problem. I can find out more information on FF5814 for you from a product manager.

What engine application are you looking to put this filter on, just out of curiosity?

 

[sdowney717]

I asked chatgpt and selected reason, and it says it does not

 

[sdowney717]

Our external catalog is trash is the main problem. I can find out more information on FF5814 for you from a product manager.

What engine application are you looking to put this filter on, just out of curiosity?

I was in a discussion on Cummins forum to use FF filters on a 1-14 thread filter base for my 2005 diesel Cummins 5.9L truck.
Someone said FF5814 is just the best, while I was saying FF63053NN is better as it uses Nanonet media, and more comparable to a CAT 416-1225

And that larger filters are better than smaller ones

 

[NashNative]

I was in a discussion on Cummins forum to use FF filters on a 1-14 thread filter base for my 2005 diesel Cummins 5.9L truck.
Someone said FF5814 is just the best, while I was saying FF63053NN is better as it uses Nanonet media, and more comparable to a CAT 416-1225

And that larger filters are better than smaller ones

Just spoke to someone on the technical team and the FF5814 is indeed made with NanoNet. It's rated at 98.7% efficient at 3 microns. That's an older NanoNet part number, back before we started tagging the NN suffix on those part numbers: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://cms.fleetguard.com/en/literature/fleetguard-nanonet-cat-engines/lt36421

 

[sdowney717]

Just spoke to someone on the technical team and the FF5814 is indeed made with NanoNet. It's rated at 98.7% efficient at 3 microns. That's an older NanoNet part number, back before we started tagging the NN suffix on those part numbers: chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://cms.fleetguard.com/en/literature/fleetguard-nanonet-cat-engines/lt36421

"That's an older NanoNet part number, back before we started tagging the NN suffix on those part numbers"

Thanks for talking with me, is there a FF5814NN that is Nanonet? Are you going to put NN on the end?

Is an older FF5814 non Nanonet? Why not be consistent with nanonet media by keeping the NN at end of filter number?
Like this here

 

[NashNative]

"That's an older NanoNet part number, back before we started tagging the NN suffix on those part numbers"

Thanks for talking with me, is there a FF5814NN that is Nanonet? Are you going to put NN on the end?

Is an older FF5814 non Nanonet? Why not be consistent with nanonet media by keeping the NN at end of filter number?
Like this here

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I can't really answer why the original NanoNet parts didn't carry the NN suffix, but probably just a decision by product management back in the day when it was all new and we didn't know exactly how it was going to go in the market. The FF5814 is definitely a NanoNet media filter though; I was able to confirm it's using the same grade of NanoNet that's found in the FF5782, which is a NanoNet part for Cummins QSK high horsepower engines...so it's definitely got some of the best media even though it's one of the earlier part numbers released. Guarantee you it's better than the CAT option likely made by Donaldson...that's more than likely a glass media filter.

 

[sdowney717]

I can't really answer why the original NanoNet parts didn't carry the NN suffix, but probably just a decision by product management back in the day when it was all new and we didn't know exactly how it was going to go in the market. The FF5814 is definitely a NanoNet media filter though; I was able to confirm it's using the same grade of NanoNet that's found in the FF5782, which is a NanoNet part for Cummins QSK high horsepower engines...so it's definitely got some of the best media even though it's one of the earlier part numbers released. Guarantee you it's better than the CAT option likely made by Donaldson...that's more than likely a glass media filter.

Thanks on this but they ought to stick to some kind protocol on filter nomenclature as it causes less concerns.

CAT are mostly made by AFS now, the Donaldson factory I read is no longer used

https://afsifilters.com/

FF5782NN​

Does show up as an NN filter, which is good
https://shop.cummins.com/SC/product/fleetguard-fuel-filter-ff5782nn/01t4N0000048oT3QAI

 

[NashNative]

Thanks on this but they ought to stick to some kind protocol on filter nomenclature as it causes less concerns.

CAT are mostly made by AFS now, the Donaldson factory I read is no longer used

https://afsifilters.com/

FF5782NN​

Does show up as an NN filter, which is good
https://shop.cummins.com/SC/product/fleetguard-fuel-filter-ff5782nn/01t4N0000048oT3QAI

100% agree with you on the naming convention. We've ironed that out more as time went on, but some of those 2011-2013 era NN filters remain the same. All newer NN parts carry the suffix.

 

[sdowney717]

100% agree with you on the naming convention. We've ironed that out more as time went on, but some of those 2011-2013 era NN filters remain the same. All newer NN parts carry the suffix.

Nice, I appreciate that.