I had to wait inside because of downpouring rain and every phone call they tried to upsell shocks along with the lifetime alignment and of course the firestone credit card which will save you 10% off your current bill, all this for people just trying to get oil changed. Made me sickWe have 2 cars with lifetime alignments at Firestone. Conveniently either the machines are down or the printer was not working when we’ve scheduled alignments. Not just 1 but 4 locations. Sad
Do you live in a small town or something? There has to be 40 machines within 20 miles of my home.I looked up what shops use road force balancers on their site, toyota dealer has one, I called its over 95$ per wheel
Hey, I tried one. I'll try the other 39 now. See if I can find a competent shopDo you live in a small town or something? There has to be 40 machines within 20 miles of my home.
My area code is 06082, can you check the hunter site and recommend one for meDo you live in a small town or something? There has to be 40 machines within 20 miles of my home.
Look-this is a gripe thread nothing more. We can't help you.My area code is 06082, can you check the hunter site and recommend one for me
My area code is 06082, can you check the hunter site and recommend one for me
Actually I've read about road force balancing on this site many times, I wanted responses if I should of expected more for $100, but so what if I want to gripe, wasting money sucksLook-this is a gripe thread nothing more. We can't help you.
There different procedures to measure different things. You really need both.A friend had her new tires road force balanced at it shook.
They tried 3 more times.
Then I took the wheels off her car, dynamic balanced them, put them back on her car, problem solved.
This road force junk seems more like a rip off, than a new better mouse trap that someone invented.
The equipment is good. I’ve fixed many vibrations that had been to multiple other shops using a Hunter road force machine. The key is the person using it. Do they actually know how it works? Do they care enough to go through the steps or are they just mad because they feel underpaid so they’ll cut every corner they can?A friend had her new tires road force balanced at it shook.
They tried 3 more times.
Then I took the wheels off her car, dynamic balanced them, put them back on her car, problem solved.
This road force junk seems more like a rip off, than a new better mouse trap that someone invented.
he is in hereI'm no tire expert but I do mount and balance my own tires on Corghi equipment. If I had a passenger car tire that needed 3.5 ounces of weight or even the 2.5 ounces of weight I'd start digging to find out why. That's a lot of imbalance to be spinning around. I think those tires are wonky.
We have a resident tire expert on the forum with some very great input. Maybe he'll chime in. I just can't remember his name at the moment.
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An honest tech and/or shop would hopefully only charge you a regular wheel tire balance fee if all road force measurements came out normal. Even though they did run road force measurements / loads, it was approximately 30 seconds more time, all of which the machine did for the tech.Actually I've read about road force balancing on this site many times, I wanted responses if I should of expected more for $100, but so what if I want to gripe, wasting money sucks
An honest tech and/or shop would hopefully only charge you a regular wheel tire balance fee if all road force measurements came out normal. Even though they did run road force measurements / loads, it was approximately 30 seconds more time, all of which the machine did for the tech.
If the road force is off is when the labor comes in that they want so much $ per wheel. If numbers are excessive, rim run out has to be measured, tire deflated and broken down to spin on the wheel and match, re-seated and inflated, road force rechecked (which if the assembly was pretty bad on the first check, it’s usually not correct with the first force matching, so rim runout and match again), and dynamic / static balance redone once the assembly is within acceptable road force.
It’s a process, and mounting balancing a brand new tire usually only pays a tech 0.3 hours = 18 minutes. Road force takes longer than mounting new tires, but customers (or service writers for that matter) rarely understand the process.
The 2 shops I’ve worked at, one was 1.2 hours for 4 tires and one was 1 hour for 4 tires.Where are they paying a tire guy 18 minutes to mount and balance a tire on a car?