Favorite BMW LL-01 oil

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Originally Posted By: Olas
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Olas
Do you mean stuff that is on BMWs own list?

Most folks dont have access to this list. If you do, please share a link.


Most folks don't have access to the list? 2nd link down on Google!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=478346


Yeah... That post is 5 years old, and the list itself is almost 7!

Want to try again?
 
Mobil 1 0W-40 no longer carries LL01. That is unquestionably the present situation. Whether or not the new formulation will be certified to LL01 or there is a new BMW specification being released remains to be seen.

German Castrol 0W-40 is $21 for 5 quarts. Doesn't get much cheaper than that, and it is a very nice oil. It can't be beat for the price if you need an oil that carries 502/LL01/229.5/A40.
 
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: Olas
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Olas
Do you mean stuff that is on BMWs own list?

Most folks dont have access to this list. If you do, please share a link.


Most folks don't have access to the list? 2nd link down on Google!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=478346


Yeah... That post is 5 years old, and the list itself is almost 7!

Want to try again?

Not to mention it's a list of LL-04 oils, not LL-01.
 
Originally Posted By: ABCarr
Amsoil European Car Formula 0W-40 (EFO)


Which like the Mobil 1 0W-40 FS does not carry actual LL-01 certification.
 
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Not to mention it's a list of LL-04 oils, not LL-01.


And, there is no (publicly) available "BMW Approved Oil List". You have to go by what the oil manufacturer states on the container.

Which is of little consequence anyway, published lists (such as the Audi/Volkswagen one) are often outdated the minute they are issued.
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: ABCarr
Amsoil European Car Formula 0W-40 (EFO)


Which like the Mobil 1 0W-40 FS does not carry actual LL-01 certification.


True.....apparently meets the spec but is not certified.
 
I run Liqui-Moly Leichtlauf High Tech 5W-40 in my 2007 X5 with the 4.8 N62 V8. German oil for a German engine. Nice specs too.
 
Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
Sold my last Beemer[sic]a while back... But I never understood why a car this expensive with the regular high RPM thrashing it gets should not be babied with a 5K oil change... If it was my car, it'd get changed at 5K with a Porsche A40 listed oil
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The M54 in my wife's X3 is hard on oil but even so every UOA indicates that any LL-01 oil I've used is good for at least 10K miles. Ditto for the M42 in the Club Sport. The jury is still out on the N55 in the 2er, however.
 
Originally Posted By: MCompact
The M54 in my wife's X3 is hard on oil

What makes it hard on oil? I can't say that I've heard that before.
 
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: MCompact
The M54 in my wife's X3 is hard on oil

What makes it hard on oil? I can't say that I've heard that before.


I didn't mean it as a general statement; but in the case of the X3 at 10K miles the TBN is always below 1.0- I change it at 7.5K just to be safe and to stay synced with the service intervals
 
Originally Posted By: MCompact
I didn't mean it as a general statement; but in the case of the X3 at 10K miles the TBN is always below 1.0- I change it at 7.5K just to be safe and to stay synced with the service intervals

I see. When I was doing lots of hwy driving in mine, 10K OCI was no problem - TBN was still at 6. Now, when I mainly short trip, that's another story. Now I just change the oil annually, even if that means I only do 3K miles during that time.
 
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Rat407
A friends 2011 Mini Cooper calls for LL-01 5w30, any reason I couldn't use LL-04 5w30? Looking at using AMSOIL's European oil AEL

If you're sticking to factory recommended OCI (which is about 10K miles, right?), then an LL-04 oil might have a hard time making it this long due to weaker add pack.


According to Amsoil site, they recommend 5W-40 Full SAPS LL-01 oil for that car. Amsoil EFM type. OCI max is 15K miles if it is a turbo.
http://www.amsoil.com/mygarage/vehiclelookuppage.aspx?url2=2011+MINI+COOPER+E

Hope that helps.
 
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