Exxon/Mobil now supplying Super Tech oil

Ken2 · Jun 19, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by Alan:
Yeah I saw some of the newer light blue bottles also the other day at Walmart but only in the 20W50 grade.Would this stuff be like Superflo or Drive Clean?

IF it is indeed an ExxonMobil product, there is no reason to assume that it is the same product you get with the Exxon or Mobil label. Wally's order is plenty big enough for EM to custom blend it for whatever Wally wants...usually the cheapest product that meets minimum spec.

Ken

jbas · Jun 19, 2004

YES,YES,YES.

Exxon/Mobil - First WalMart, later BITOG, then...THE WORLD!!!

GROUCHO MARX · Jun 20, 2004

But would EM bottle the Wally synthetics which are GIII?

Cutehumor · Jun 20, 2004

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Originally posted by liquidballbearing:
It's true--the SuperTech oil is now supplied by Exxon/Mobil. I don't know all the details of the decision to go from Warren to Exxon/Mobil but I do know 100% for sure that E/M will be supplying STech. I know that some of you still won't belive this info, but I promise you that I'm telling the truth.

If this is true, and Supertech oil is now either mobil drive clean/exxon superflo. I wonder if the FULL SYNTHETIC supertech will now be Mobil 1

jbas · Jun 20, 2004

Why? Wouldn't it be more likely that XON/MOBIL will change the additive package somewhat so the WallyWorld goup is a different product line than their current ones? I would think that would be simple for them, and expected. It just would have to meet the new SM requirements, I'm sure. Hey, take four 88-cent Mobil oil quarts, a few pennies worth of Lube Control, add a couple of $1.97 SuperTech filters, and drive 10,000 trouble-free miles. I guess this is the end of BITOG. It was a great web-site, in its day.

Today WalMart...tomorrow the World!

AtlasFBG2 · Jun 21, 2004

The blues bottles at my local Wallyworld are 5w30 and have wpp on the bottom of the bottle.The 10w30 are still the older gray bottles.

Blue99 · Jun 21, 2004

Actually, Warren Distribution is a blender & pakager, not a refinery. The Supertech oil API license is in Walmart's name, not Warren's.

The additive package may be spelled out per the license, but the base oil spec may allow any number of base oils on the market to be freely substituted in the formulation.

What Liquidballbearing may have heard is that ExxonMobil is now supplying the base oils for the Supertech formulations.

Some links to pictures of the Warren Council Bluffs,IA facility.

http://www.wd-wpp.com/wpp.html

Aerial view of Warren Council Bluffs Facility

Note that the tank storage capacity is over 4 million gallons for both oil & antifreeze products. Transportation access is by rail, river barge, and truck transport - nearby interstate highway.

Note: Edit to get the 1st link to work..

[ June 22, 2004, 12:42 AM: Message edited by: Blue99 ]

Jackpot01 · Jun 21, 2004

I was at a local Walmart the other day to pick up some injector cleaner and I looked at the Super Tech oil after seeing this post. The Dino oil did not have WPP on the bottom of the bottle, the Semi Syn did have WPP on the bottom. So thats my 2 cents. I guess we shall see what happens.

Eric
01 Focus Zetec - Motorcraft 5w20
99 Maxima VQ30DE - Castrol Syntec Blend 10w30

dustyjoe1 · Jun 21, 2004

down here only blue bottles are 5quart st. bottom has WPP stamped on it. Hey, maybe its exxon oil in a warren container....

Bob Woods · Jun 22, 2004

How about its something as simple as Warren buys bulk oil from who ever gives them the right price, since they don't own a refinery they have to buy their base oils just like Amzoil does.

eljefino · Jun 22, 2004

I just hope walmart gets those cool "widemouth" bottles-- they practically screw in to my valve cover oil opening on my saturns!

I can leave them to drip dry even in a stiff breeze.

csandste · Jun 22, 2004

In the boat forum there's a posting of suppliers for outboard oils. Both WPP AND Shell are listed. More speculation that Wal-Mart keeps multiple contracts and that formulas may vary from place to place as well as time to time.

MikeR · Jun 23, 2004

Strange - I'm on business travel in Indiana and I stopped by a Walmart and noticed bright blue Supertech bottles next to the blue-gray ones. The new ones said "WPP" on the bottom too.

Is it just me, or is ST coming out with new viscosities? I hadn't seen 20w-50 ST dino before.

They also had Valvoline "Premium Blue" HDEO. And a bottle of SJ Syntec.

MR

csandste · Jun 23, 2004

I've put ST 20w50 in my daughter's old Camry. Don't remember if it was available before SL run.

Question-- Is Exxon's dino group III or like Mobil 1?

http://www.host1.exxonmobil.com/psims/psims.aspx

Looks like this is being phased out as other references to synthetic on Exxon site tell the customer to try Mobil 1.

http://www.exxon.com/USA-English/Lubes/Product_Information/Automotive_Engine_Oils_Collection.asp

motorguy222 · Jun 23, 2004

I was at the local WM today and they had ST 20W-50 in the blue bottles.The other ST was almost completely gone.Maybe thay are switching the oil to all blue bottles.Anyway,I looked on the bottom of the blue bottle and it had the WPP stamp on it just like the old bottles have.Just my two cents.

WeyounDS9 · Jun 23, 2004

quote:

Originally posted by Alan:
Yeah I saw some of the newer light blue bottles also the other day at Walmart but only in the 20W50 grade.Would this stuff be like Superflo or Drive Clean?

I'd much prefer SuperFlow over DC.

Fred..

Gene K · Jun 23, 2004

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Originally posted by palmerwmd:

quote:

Originally posted by Alan:
Yeah I saw some of the newer light blue bottles also the other day at Walmart but only in the 20W50 grade.Would this stuff be like Superflo or Drive Clean?

Click to expand...

I'd much prefer SuperFlow over DC.

Fred..

My understanding....

Warren still blends the SuperTech but the Light Blue Bottles are blended using Exxon/Mobile Base Stocks.

I suspect the Formulation MAY have changed to suit the new base stock.

VOA's anyone?

Gene

G-MAN · Jun 24, 2004

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Originally posted by Gene K:
Warren still blends the SuperTech but the Light Blue Bottles are blended using Exxon/Mobile Base Stocks.

Why on earth would they change the color of the bottle based on a change in the base oil supplier?

csandste · Jun 24, 2004

Because Warren through the old stock in the bottle making machine and it lightened the plastic up.

csandste · Jun 24, 2004

With all the discussion about ST, I'm not sure I ever knew who formerly produced the base stocks. Does anyone know? Would they bother shifting suppliers unless it was as a preliminary move to SM-- i.e. more group II or II+? I always thought Mobil Drive Clean had a lot of group I in it, hence its extra cleaning ability.

[ June 24, 2004, 12:18 PM: Message edited by: csandste ]

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