Explorer st or telluride?

MNgopher said:
About $3500 bucks more than what my 2021 was for the same equipment... Given the current market, not surprised...
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I buy a bunch of raw materials for machining and once I look at it that way it makes sense. My 2020 F350 is now about $7k more
 
MNgopher said:
Good old Hutch... A miracle that incident didn't kill him. Won't call it an accident - leaving a sherriff's convention drunk in a county vehicle and driving over a 100 mph isn't an accident. Wanna bet how many times he had driven drunk before?
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It would seen not driving drunk would minimize your chances of being involved in such a situation.....
 
Will be picking up a 2022 Toyota Highlander within the next week upon arrival. Wife is currently driving an Explorer. We have several hundred at work. The guys really like the updated 2020 version, the mechanics not so much. One of my guys AC won't work above 80 degrees. No fixes from Ford. Body pieces falling off, wheel bearings going. Between work and home I've had 13 Fords, just bought a 2022 F150. Ford will get there with the explorer, but as usual for them they don't mature the technology before release. You are the beta tester. My 2017 f150 could not be fixed with the crummy oil pan design flaw. I wanted to buy another explorer but not yet.
 
Also, I could post photo after photo of cruisers that have been nailed on the interstate. The explorers are an incredibly safe vehicle when it comes to crashes.
 
Jay3702 said:
The wife and I like both of these vehicles obviously the ST is going to be more fun but the Kia is better value. I drove the ST and It was fun the 10 speed shifted great with this engine but haven’t driven the telluride yet
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Telluride, but change the oil every 3k and use the highest viscosity allowed in the owners manual.
 
The 3L twin turbo is a upgraded version of the utterly reliable 2.7L EB truck engine. The 10 speed auto is the same. There is no reason to expect mechanical failures with the Explorer. It has a robust drivetrain.
 
Cujet said:
The 3L twin turbo is a upgraded version of the utterly reliable 2.7L EB truck engine. The 10 speed auto is the same. There is no reason to expect mechanical failures with the Explorer. It has a robust drivetrain.
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Ford got the engine and tranny right. It's everything around the engine/tranny combo that's falling apart. Endless electrical issues, software issues, PTUs, wheel hubs/bearings, HVAC, interior that's falling apart, etc.
 
Vladiator said:
Ford got the engine and tranny right. It's everything around the engine/tranny combo that's falling apart. Endless electrical issues, software issues, PTUs, wheel hubs/bearings, HVAC, interior that's falling apart, etc.
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This is exactly what owners are complaining about. I would agree-for the most part the power train is satisfactory, most of the time.
 
I have had many Fords but lately I think that their products are way overpriced even considering our current situation.

Why is the Edge and Explorer well into the $50k range on mid to high trims?
The competition is offering better values. Even the Escape is way overpriced in the top trims.
 
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