Excel Plus, (has it been discussed yet)

[Cyprs]

I once used a product called Protec Metal Treatment, I had good success with it. I bought it in bulk from a well service company doing service work on oil and gas patch. They claimed a $7000.00 barrow of the stuff saved their company $150,000 yearly on vehicle maintenance costs, they stopped selling it to me, I can no longer get it here. I now opt to syn blend or syn oil, conv. oil was all I needed with Protec.

I have seen a product called Xcelplus on the net, it was originally formulated in 70's by a man called Bishop from the States. Apparently Slick 50 bought into it and made a bad name for Bishop's product, Slick 50 changed Bishop's formula making Slick 50 snake oil. Bishop had a court dispute to disassociate himself from Slick 50.

Xcelplus is now martketing Bishop's original treatment recipe and backing it up with independant reports such as consumer report, U.S. military test, Government test and couple university studies. The tests results claim that this Xcelplus is the only metal treatment that does what it claims. One government study claimed that if every vehicle used this stuff it would have prevented energy crisis in 70's. Xcelplus claims their treatment is a one time only treatment, it puts a few microns coating on all metal parts for life time of engine, to remove the metal treatment it would have to be machined off.

If this product is proven I would use it in my gasser and Diesel, there is a formulation for both. I have never used it, has anyone? Is this snake oil?

xcelplus.com is where I found this product, I found it on search engine on oil additives. The tests I mentioned are at this site, worth a look, seems like credible sources on the testing of this product, all results are positive, no celebrity testimonials or endorsements.

If this product was discussed before then please let me know approx how far back the post is so I can dig it up and read it.

thanks

Cyprs

 

[goodvibes]

No halides is implied but every product test is from about 1980 and before we had FM oils so it's hard to say how much it would effect modern autos, even if it worked.

 

[XS650]

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Originally posted by MolaKule:



Just a common thread I've noticed about these aftermarket "non-conventional" lubricants and additives:

They all seem to have a lot of money to support or advertise in some specific show or sporting event.

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The other common thread is that if they cite tests, the tests were either bought and paid for by them or poorly done by someone with connections to the organization refered to, but not a part of that organizations normal test operations.

The M113 fan gear box test on their web page for example. The US Army has some excellent test labs, but the test they show appears to have been amateurishly run done by a base maintenance operation. It would be much more impressive if they had some test results from TACOM.

 

[Cyprs]

Is there a product available that does coat the metal and protect an engine without turning into Hydrocloride acid or some other damaging chemical? Or money spent on using a good syn oil the best treatment, my understanding is synthetic oil coats parts like a metal treatment and flows great in cold starts, does better grade oil cancel necessity for oil additives? Many posts talk of additive packages in oil, is there an after market additive that compares to the oil companies additives to boost ones oil quality?
thanks,
Cyprs

 

[MolaKule]

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"The following information appeared as editorial in Consumers Digest
March / April 1982 issue. It does not represent a direct or indirect endorsement of this product." Randy Weber, Editor

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Just a few notes:

A. CD is quoting the other reports. That takes a lot of research effort?

B. All the test runs appear to be coated with a bonded nickel compound before start of test.


Just a common thread I've noticed about these aftermarket "non-conventional" lubricants and additives:

They all seem to have a lot of money to support or advertise in some specific show or sporting event.

 

[MolaKule]

Coating metal, sure!

Calcium, Boron, ZDDP, Moly, SUlfur, Magnesium, Phosphorous, etc.

All contained in your motor oil.

The films are 1-10 molecules thick, so it is not like acrylic paint film, but notheless, it is a protective film.

[ June 20, 2004, 11:44 AM: Message edited by: MolaKule ]

 

[slick1]

Xcelplus is a metal treatment not an oil treatment.

That means it coats the metal in the engine... and does not affect your oil.

What that means is that you can use whatever oil you like.

The two products then work synergistically... as each works slightly differently.

The other major difference is that the Xcelplus lasts for around 100,000 miles between treatments.