A bit of flair for the dramatic.
EV charging example costs more than it would to fill up a premium fuel car
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A bit of flair for the dramatic.
I really want to post the short of the lady in the suv commenting on cyber truck charging, she's right on point. it might earn me a vacation though so you'll have to find yourself.
I'm sure she's a well informed expert.
Why this is the basis for the EV section of the site is beyond me. I really thought it would be discussing efficiency and tech, not "I hate EVs" from everyone and their brother.
I am being completely serious. I live for road trips. Whenever I get some time off work, I just look at Google Maps and try to find a new place I can drive to to get as far away from people as possible. Last August I just jumped in the car after work and decided to drive to Alaska. This Friday I'm going to jump in the car and drive to the Arctic Ocean to look for some caribou and polar bears. I am bringing an extra gas tank worth of jerry cans with me so that I can sleep at night with the heat on, roasting in comfort as my engine idles, without having to worry about possibly not making it to the next gas station.
This is freedom to me.
Google maps sounds like prison to me...
Seriously EVs are not for everyone. No one vehicle is.
Just goes to show our needs drastically dictate what freedom is. I'm just sick of paying for gasoline and I unfortunately don't have the time to road trip like that. I haven't it done it in 15 years when I have done midwest to the west coast 6 times before that. Even if I did occasionally, I'd find the planning fun. I spent many years running like that and got screwed a few times randomly trying to get hotels, so I eventually planned every stop and still kept an eye out something that made me want to check out something unexpected along the way.
I love my GTI but I'm just about done paying 2-3 times per mile to drive it over my Tesla. There's other things I love about the GTI though, so it stays for now. The Tesla savings is all in home charging though. I doubt I'd buy one for the purposes of road tripping if I did it consistently just because it would be much closer in cost per mile.
A tool to find awesome remote destinations is a prison to you?
EV people are trying to force everyone into EVs.
Don’t start this. It isn’t going to end well. You’re just claiming someone else’s freedom is your prison. That’s where the sarcasm came in. We’ll all rattle on for another 2-3 pages convinced we’ve all won our personal battle and the thread will get locked.
I don’t give a crap what you drive. No one in an EV cares that you’re not driving an EV as long as you’re not sitting in front of my house, straight piped, sitting on the chip.
That's sorta the point, she isn't.
I don't hate EVs, I think they have their place, perhaps in a commute situation particularly where the workplace has free charging, things like that.
As my only car at this point in the development curve, no thanks, give me a hybrid.
Tesla uses Google maps. It was a joke.
If you read my post you would know I say EVs are not for everyone or every use case.
You were wrong!!!
So you have a very poor understanding of home EV charging. EVs can easily schedule themselves to charge one after the other if necessary.
Some of us sleep 8 hours per day. Is time time wasted? Is there any reason one can not charge an EV when sleeping?
The Gas Station Model does not work, as you demonstrate. All automobiles remain parked longer than they are driven each day. Plenty of time to charge.
Only you are bringing up CO2. I like CO2.
EVs are an excellent financial solution. And simply more fun to drive.
No I dont have a "very poor understanding of home EV charging"
Ok genius, explain why one can not have more than one EV if home charged?
I dont have to explain anything to you, genius
Common sense prevails, if you cant figure it out. I cant help
Tesla allows for multiple Wall Chargers to use 1 240v circuit. Not sure if it shares or stacks the load. Not today's problem.
Not sure if that makes me a genius or whatever.
Not sure if that makes me a genius or whatever.
People used to say this about cars when the world moved from horses to cars.
I don't think people understand you can program your car to charge at a lower current or delay charging start time if they have only been using gas cars.
So yeah, you can charge slower by using 1/2 as much current on 2 cars, or delay starting of charging between 2 cars so each take full current for half the time. Even if you can't do that with an existing car, a programmable timer or a smart switch is pretty cheap these days.
The main point though, is most people only need to charge enough miles for their daily commute, regardless of how big your battery or how many EVs you have. If you have 4 EVs and only 2 drivers you only need to charge their daily commutes. If you have 2 EVs with double range battery you are still only going to charge their daily commutes. This is like having double the amount of propane tanks in the backyard does not mean you will BBQ twice as often, or 2x as many bathrooms in your house means you will pee twice as often.
Good for you, but we need to realize everything has a limitation. People used to say the same about going from horses to cars, people used to say the same about working a 9-5 job getting paid well vs running your own family ranch or farm risking bankruptcy.
In the end EV today is mainly for commute, solving a (not the only) problem of gas engine being less efficient than a gas turbine, gasoline is more expensive than natural gas and U235 and hydro dam, EV motor is more comfortable than a 4 cylinder or even V6 engine in NVH, and in a lot of places importing gas is a national security issue (yes EV is a movement in a lot of places because gov don't want to import oil from their potential enemies).
It was not meant to be a solution for recreational vehicle for road trip. Most people would be better off buy what is good for their commute instead of a jack of all trade vehicle they dream of unless they have enough money for this expensive hobby. However that doesn't prevent you from buying a plug in hybrid. IMO it is the best of both world if you want the flexibility. I would not own just one EV if road trip is my goal in life.
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