Esso 0w-40 VS Mobil Delvac 5w-40

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I believe that you called a fellow-board member a liar a few posts back and now you waltz around like t'was nothing much. That is unacceptable, sir. Apologise to the man or be welcomed to your new status as the latest Oil-Troll...

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don't do it hollywood and Triple_se7en
XD3 0w40 will destroy your engine and freeze you out in winter, heater won't work I guess
that new Hemi may hit 3,000 psi on oil pressure

BlazerLT "In an engine degined for a 5w30, the 0w40 is an incredibly thick oil that should not be exposed to a light duty oil pump in cold conditions.
It will cause oil starvation, enhanced wear, poor oil flow and rediculously high oil pressures."


send all that 0w40 XD3 ESSO down to me or I'll even drive up to pick up a free load with the F350 to save your engines from sure DEATH and DESTRUCTION
probably destroy the 6L TPS in my F350 in a million miles or so

Mobil has played games with our used to be wonderful long OCI Mobil 1 PAO and I'm stuck with Redline and Amsoil, both overpriced and hard to find




Maybe if you actually have experienced some cold temperatures and noticed how it would react you would see what I am talking about.

I use the XD3 0w30 in a 4.3L Chevy engine and at -20c to -30c and the stuff is really thick and thicker than any other synthetic 5w30 out there.

I am speaking from experience, you are speaking from a white piece of paper.

You need to grab a clue about oils and stop being an absolute jacka55 when you don't have a #@$%! clue about what you are saying.

With your mentality you probably think Mobil1 0w40 and XD3 0w40 are the same seeing they have a 0w in front of them right?
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BlazerLT is correct here. Unless your starting and continually running your engine at -35°C and below, both those oils are way thicker than a typical PCMO 5w30.
 
The car I was going to put it in is a Sunfire GT 2.4L. I might be buying a Hemi later on this week. I dont think I am going to risk useing this type of oil. I might reconsider it in the summer maybe blending it with some 5w20.
 
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The car I was going to put it in is a Sunfire GT 2.4L. I might be buying a Hemi later on this week. I dont think I am going to risk useing this type of oil. I might reconsider it in the summer maybe blending it with some 5w20.




In the summer you could honestly get away with using the XD3 0w40 with little to no problems due to higher temperatures.

But please, don't risk you cars longevity in the winter with this stuff.

use on 5w20 in the Hemi all year round. Never anything over 5w20.
 
BlazerLT,
apparently millions of satisfied ultra cold wx users of XD3 0w30 and 0w40 with commercial, industrial, heavy equipement and passenger vehicles in the NWT, Yukon, N Alberta and North Slope along with Esso's tribologists are wrong and YOU are right?

I spent some time up on the north slope, both summer and winter....know what oils work and don't work below 0d C....

but you will not have much longer to enjoy it....new management at the parent corporation and full PAO base oils are apparently a money loser

still demanding that you show me one pass car/lt truck engine damaged by a high quality PAO base oil like XD3
BlazerLT "In an engine degined for a 5w30, the 0w40 is an incredibly thick oil that should not be exposed to a light duty oil pump in cold conditions.
It will cause oil starvation, enhanced wear, poor oil flow and rediculously high oil pressures."

hollywood not to worry, both fine Esso XD3 0w 's are rated SJ for PCMO's

the Hemi discussion came at the tail end of the thread thus and does have different unique manuf. oil requirements for proper cyl. deactivation...

BlazerLT, i have used no profanity such as u have in your wild name calling....I would suggest you come up with some verifiable proof of engine damage by Esso's fine XD3 oils or cease your oral self fornication
 
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BlazerLT,
apparently millions of satisfied ultra cold wx users of XD3 0w30 and 0w40 with commercial, industrial, heavy equipement and passenger vehicles in the NWT, Yukon, N Alberta and North Slope along with Esso's tribologists are wrong and YOU are right?





HELLO!!!! COMMERCIAL, heavy duty and industrial!

Make any sense to you? You have proof that they use the oil in passenger cars up there?

I don't think so, you are just basing your inferences from your warm cliamte in Washington Stat and reading your knowledge off of a white paper from the company. Of course the heavy duty engine can use it seeing they aren't using light duty parts to pump their oil around the engine.

You have no experience with the oil at all. All you are doing is spreading your factless opinion, calling other liars and then getting all whiney when you get it thrown back in your face with your own data.

You don't even use the oil yourself yet you claim to be an expert with it.

I use the 0w30 version and it is almost too thick for my 4.3L in really cold conditions. At -25c it max's out my oil pressure gauge which never occured even with the dino 5w30.

The use of the 0w40 version is out of the question, never would I subject my engine to that thick of an oil and my engine is more heavy duty than hollywoods applications. With the 0w30 I have some problems with oil flow even at -35c and the you can actually hear crank knock for two seconds when starting it.

So stop spreading you pointless and factless opinion and listen to the several people in this thread that have put you in your place where you belong.

You are just making up stories to back you and a is a sign of desperation.

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The Hemi I am about to buy is a 2004 so it doesnt have the cylinder deactivation... I still would only use 5w20 because I am going to need all the mpg I can get. I thought about blending it but from what I am reading here its just not worth it.
 
Well, you have all kinds of choices then if MDS is out of the picture. That is really too bad, by the way - it is really worthwhile & helps tremendously. I would still run a high quality twenty-weight synthetic oil to give it a bit of a break. The engine was designed to be run with a twenty-weight for the MDS so it will be no different without MDS. My current mix is Canadian Tire's 5w-20 (Shell) synthetic oil with a couple of litres of GC thrown in for my peace of mind. There was a pretty good sale on the C.T. stuff last month.

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a 0w20 syn or 5w20 CT Shell or your great Esso Ultra in the NTU Hemi will be fine in non towing no cargo apps
great engine with great exhaust sound....Dodge has brought back an old engine head design and made it work in modern apps...
i'm sure you'll enjoy the ride, hollywood
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The Hemi I am about to buy is a 2004 so it doesnt have the cylinder deactivation... I still would only use 5w20 because I am going to need all the mpg I can get. I thought about blending it but from what I am reading here its just not worth it.




i would still go with the lightest oil you can get away with.

You will get better cold start flow and better winter fuel economy.
 
A little late to the thread but I'll still give my
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Sell the free oil and buy the correct oil, that being an 0W20 or a PCMO 0W30.

Steelhead - I have never seen an oil related engine failure due to improper viscosity but that does not make it right or more importantly, it is not the best oil for this situation, which is what we all argue about - what is best. 99% of the time HDEO's need to stay in heavy duty applications for which they were designed (ie. diesels). As for your argument with BlazerLT, he is correct so give it up. Thin to win, baby!
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oil changer,

hollywood's original thread question was "Esso 0w-40 VS Mobil Delvac 5w-40?If your car took 5w-30 and you lived in Canada and can get either one for free. Which one would you choose and why?

i answered that truefully and concisely.....selling oil from work may get him fired....would in the business i own......

you also forget that Exxo XD3 is PCMO rated SJ

are you recommending w20 in Alberta summer heat in a loose 2.4 GM 4 cyl rated for w30?

hollywood stated he was not concerned about minor fuel mileage decrease so that is mute point

"thin to win" is a loser and doesn't cut it on race track with cast pistons and loose bearing clearance
 
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oil changer,

hollywood's original thread question was "Esso 0w-40 VS Mobil Delvac 5w-40?If your car took 5w-30 and you lived in Canada and can get either one for free. Which one would you choose and why?

i answered that truefully and concisely.....selling oil from work may get him fired....would in the business i own......

you also forget that Exxo XD3 is PCMO rated SJ

are you recommending w20 in Alberta summer heat in a loose 2.4 GM 4 cyl rated for w30?

hollywood stated he was not concerned about minor fuel mileage decrease so that is mute point

"thin to win" is a loser and doesn't cut it on race track with cast pistons and loose bearing clearance




Are we racing here? No! So why are you bringing that up. Stop trying to confuse people into agreeing with you.

Another desperate attempt? YES!

He is talking about the 20 weight in the Hemi. Which can be done seeing the MDS Hemi is the same engine and uses that oil with no problems.

Let's make it simple for you:

1.) You live in a cold climate, don't use an overly thick HD 0w40 engine oil.

2.) Just because it is PAO doesn't mean it is thin.

3.) Dino oils can be thinner than synthetics down to certain temperatures.

4.) A 0w40 can be thicker than another manufacturer's 5w30 synthetic when cold at a certain temperature.

5.) Bringing race engines into a thread where we are talking about cold weather oil is straight up moronic!

Let it go, you lost, and you still don't know what you are talking about.

Maybe you will start talking about oil in the tropics to make your point seeing it is really a good point in this thread.....
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