End of life experience during my Dad's passing

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Y'all:

I have a life story I'd like to share with you, but before I go any further let's be respectful with our replies and comments. Thanks.

My mother passed away in 2010. My parents had been married 59 years at the time of her passing. My father passed in 2012.

My father lived on his own afterwards in the home they bought in 1959. Sue and I live about 360 miles away from him (round trip) so it was impossible to make daily or weekly checks on him. And my father, as supremely intelligent as he was, was computer illiterate and deaf (late in life) which made conversation with him difficult.

Dad was always an independent guy, but when we visited and found the kitchen sink running or one of the stove top burners glowing orange hot - while he was in bed taking a midday nap - we decided to have him move in with us. We set up a nice living space for him in our spare bedroom.

Long story short, my father had a sales career that required him to wear the finest suits, drive the nicest cars (including a Tri-Power 1965 Pontiac Grand Prix back in the day). Also too, he had to entertain clients with fine dinners and/or golf on the Monterey Peninsula or in San Francisco.

By now Dad was having heart problems and was on medication for it. In his final weeks that proud, handsome man was having to wear diapers. That image haunts me to this day.

One day he called Sue and me into his room and said, "I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you two caring for me like this - but this isn't living." Then he looked at Sue (who was an RN) and asked, "Susie, what can I do about this?" No sure what he was really asking, it made Sue and I pause for several seconds until she said, "Well, Jim, if you stop taking your heart meds you won't last long". To that he said, "That's exactly what I need to know. Thanks!". Six weeks later he was dead.

My Dad and Sue became very close over the years, which was quite a contrast to his feelings when he first met her. Let's just say that Sue was free spirited young woman who couldn't spell the word "bra", a contrast to my Dad's professional persona. But over the years my Dad - in fact both my parents - absolutely adored her. I'm an only child and I used to joke with them that they loved her more than they did me. My kidding was often met with an awkward silence, which suggested they did indeed loved her more than me. But no worries, I understood and I didn't blame them!

One last thing, I grew up in an agnostic family. Sue was not religious, per se, but she was very spiritual.

Given that backdrop, here is where things get.....I'm not sure how to describe it.

Dad was on Hospice care. Part of that care plan in his final days was giving him anti-anxiety drugs and morphine. In his final hours I sat in his room with him. No way was I going to let him die alone. On his final night he was unconscious and making the death sounds we were warned to prepare for.

I couldn't tolerate it any longer, and I'm sure nor could he. I was double and tripling his morphine doses in an effort to put him out of his misery. But he lived on. I sat there all night until about 5AM. Sue got up and said, "Scott, You have to be exhausted. Go to bed. Let me sit with him for awhile". I went to bed and fell asleep in seconds. Sue awakened me just 15 minutes later and told me Dad had died.

But here is the "interesting" part. Wrong word, but you'll get it if you read on.

Sue was exhausted too and dozed off minutes after taking over. Then she had this "dream". She was in a fancy hotel in San Francisco (my Dad's favorite city back in the day). She was led to this door somewhere. She knocked and when the door opened she saw my father dressed up in one of his fancy suits with a gathering of happy people socializing in the background - and my Dad was a young man!

Sue didn't understand and stammered, "Jim, I don't understand. What's going on?" To which he replied, "Susie, don't worry about me. I'm not sick anymore!". Sue awakened from this "dream", only to see my Dad take his last breath.

It is my belief that my Dad didn't want to die with me, he wanted to die with Sue. And I understand!

Perhaps more importantly, where do you think he was?

I'll let you draw your own conclusions, but please be respectful with your comments.

Scott

PS Read the obituary and look at this picture. That's our three dogs with Dad on his final day. Look at the concern on their faces. They knew this canine loving human was near the end.

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/mercurynews/name/james-sitler-obituary?id=9982026

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I have had friends who have died suddenly and unexpectedly. One was a suicide. Another died without prior warning in an accident. Within weeks, both came back to me in dreams to say goodbye,

I am not a religious or spiritual person. I view myself as secular - ethical.
 
Sorry again for the loss of not only your dad, but both your parents. I know you are 72, but loss of parents is always sad.

Fully concur your dad may not have wanted to pass with his only child present.

My dad passed very much like your dad. My sister, who is a nurse was very close and dependent on dad. She was with him days waiting for him to pass. I told my sister to go home and get some rest. Dad passed within the hour of my sister leaving the hospital to go home for some rest.
 
I’m a Christian. Even though there’s differences within Christian beliefs regarding the ins and outs about life after death, your wife’s dream may have been a message from God (my belief) that everything is ok with your dad. No more pain. Just happiness. My Dad passed in 1996. My mom in 1970. I still dream that I can talk with them and they’re fine. There’s things-events-occurrences that take place that us mere mortals will never understand…at least on this side of Heaven.
 
Y'all:

I have a life story I'd like to share with you, but before I go any further let's be respectful with our replies and comments. Thanks.

My mother passed away in 2010. My parents had been married 59 years at the time of her passing. My father passed in 2012.

My father lived on his own afterwards in the home they bought in 1959. Sue and I live about 360 miles away from him (round trip) so it was impossible to make daily or weekly checks on him. And my father, as supremely intelligent as he was, was computer illiterate and deaf (late in life) which made conversation with him difficult.

Dad was always an independent guy, but when we visited and found the kitchen sink running or one of the stove top burners glowing orange hot - while he was in bed taking a midday nap - we decided to have him move in with us. We set up a nice living space for him in our spare bedroom.

Long story short, my father had a sales career that required him to wear the finest suits, drive the nicest cars (including a Tri-Power 1965 Pontiac Grand Prix back in the day). Also too, he had to entertain clients with fine dinners and/or golf on the Monterey Peninsula or in San Francisco.

By now Dad was having heart problems and was on medication for it. In his final weeks that proud, handsome man was having to wear diapers. That image haunts me to this day.

One day he called Sue and me into his room and said, "I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you two caring for me like this - but this isn't living." Then he looked at Sue (who was an RN) and asked, "Susie, what can I do about this?" No sure what he was really asking, it made Sue and I pause for several seconds until she said, "Well, Jim, if you stop taking your heart meds you won't last long". To that he said, "That's exactly what I need to know. Thanks!". Six weeks later he was dead.

My Dad and Sue became very close over the years, which was quite a contrast to his feelings when he first met her. Let's just say that Sue was free spirited young woman who couldn't spell the word "bra", a contrast to my Dad's professional persona. But over the years my Dad - in fact both my parents - absolutely adored her. I'm an only child and I used to joke with them that they loved her more than they did me. My kidding was often met with an awkward silence, which suggested they did indeed loved her more than me. But no worries, I understood and I didn't blame them!

One last thing, I grew up in an agnostic family. Sue was not religious, per se, but she was very spiritual.

Given that backdrop, here is where things get.....I'm not sure how to describe it.

Dad was on Hospice care. Part of that care plan in his final days was giving him anti-anxiety drugs and morphine. In his final hours I sat in his room with him. No way was I going to let him die alone. On his final night he was unconscious and making the death sounds we were warned to prepare for.

I couldn't tolerate it any longer, and I'm sure nor could he. I was double and tripling his morphine doses in an effort to put him out of his misery. But he lived on. I sat there all night until about 5AM. Sue got up and said, "Scott, You have to be exhausted. Go to bed. Let me sit with him for awhile". I went to bed and fell asleep in seconds. Sue awakened me just 15 minutes later and told me Dad had died.

But here is the "interesting" part. Wrong word, but you'll get it if you read on.

Sue was exhausted too and dozed off minutes after taking over. Then she had this "dream". She was in a fancy hotel in San Francisco (my Dad's favorite city back in the day). She was led to this door somewhere. She knocked and when the door opened she saw my father dressed up in one of his fancy suits with a gathering of happy people socializing in the background - and my Dad was a young man!

Sue didn't understand and stammered, "Jim, I don't understand. What's going on?" To which he replied, "Susie, don't worry about me. I'm not sick anymore!". Sue awakened from this "dream", only to see my Dad take his last breath.

It is my belief that my Dad didn't want to die with me, he wanted to die with Sue. And I understand!

Perhaps more importantly, where do you think he was?

I'll let you draw your own conclusions, but please be respectful with your comments.

Scott

PS Read the obituary and look at this picture. That's our three dogs with Dad on his final day. Look at the concern on their faces. They knew this canine loving human was near the end.

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/mercurynews/name/james-sitler-obituary?id=9982026

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First off your dad loved you as much as Sue . Sometimes it's hard for men to express feeling to a son .
 
Y'all:

I have a life story I'd like to share with you, but before I go any further let's be respectful with our replies and comments. Thanks.

My mother passed away in 2010. My parents had been married 59 years at the time of her passing. My father passed in 2012.

My father lived on his own afterwards in the home they bought in 1959. Sue and I live about 360 miles away from him (round trip) so it was impossible to make daily or weekly checks on him. And my father, as supremely intelligent as he was, was computer illiterate and deaf (late in life) which made conversation with him difficult.

Dad was always an independent guy, but when we visited and found the kitchen sink running or one of the stove top burners glowing orange hot - while he was in bed taking a midday nap - we decided to have him move in with us. We set up a nice living space for him in our spare bedroom.

Long story short, my father had a sales career that required him to wear the finest suits, drive the nicest cars (including a Tri-Power 1965 Pontiac Grand Prix back in the day). Also too, he had to entertain clients with fine dinners and/or golf on the Monterey Peninsula or in San Francisco.

By now Dad was having heart problems and was on medication for it. In his final weeks that proud, handsome man was having to wear diapers. That image haunts me to this day.

One day he called Sue and me into his room and said, "I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you two caring for me like this - but this isn't living." Then he looked at Sue (who was an RN) and asked, "Susie, what can I do about this?" No sure what he was really asking, it made Sue and I pause for several seconds until she said, "Well, Jim, if you stop taking your heart meds you won't last long". To that he said, "That's exactly what I need to know. Thanks!". Six weeks later he was dead.

My Dad and Sue became very close over the years, which was quite a contrast to his feelings when he first met her. Let's just say that Sue was free spirited young woman who couldn't spell the word "bra", a contrast to my Dad's professional persona. But over the years my Dad - in fact both my parents - absolutely adored her. I'm an only child and I used to joke with them that they loved her more than they did me. My kidding was often met with an awkward silence, which suggested they did indeed loved her more than me. But no worries, I understood and I didn't blame them!

One last thing, I grew up in an agnostic family. Sue was not religious, per se, but she was very spiritual.

Given that backdrop, here is where things get.....I'm not sure how to describe it.

Dad was on Hospice care. Part of that care plan in his final days was giving him anti-anxiety drugs and morphine. In his final hours I sat in his room with him. No way was I going to let him die alone. On his final night he was unconscious and making the death sounds we were warned to prepare for.

I couldn't tolerate it any longer, and I'm sure nor could he. I was double and tripling his morphine doses in an effort to put him out of his misery. But he lived on. I sat there all night until about 5AM. Sue got up and said, "Scott, You have to be exhausted. Go to bed. Let me sit with him for awhile". I went to bed and fell asleep in seconds. Sue awakened me just 15 minutes later and told me Dad had died.

But here is the "interesting" part. Wrong word, but you'll get it if you read on.

Sue was exhausted too and dozed off minutes after taking over. Then she had this "dream". She was in a fancy hotel in San Francisco (my Dad's favorite city back in the day). She was led to this door somewhere. She knocked and when the door opened she saw my father dressed up in one of his fancy suits with a gathering of happy people socializing in the background - and my Dad was a young man!

Sue didn't understand and stammered, "Jim, I don't understand. What's going on?" To which he replied, "Susie, don't worry about me. I'm not sick anymore!". Sue awakened from this "dream", only to see my Dad take his last breath.

It is my belief that my Dad didn't want to die with me, he wanted to die with Sue. And I understand!

Perhaps more importantly, where do you think he was?

I'll let you draw your own conclusions, but please be respectful with your comments.

Scott

PS Read the obituary and look at this picture. That's our three dogs with Dad on his final day. Look at the concern on their faces. They knew this canine loving human was near the end.

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/mercurynews/name/james-sitler-obituary?id=9982026

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Truly sorry but glad you have Sue to lean on. Your dad let her know he is in a new place. My sister in law who passed (69yrs old) came to me in a similar way in my sleep. Said nothing but looked like she did in her 20s and was smiling with bright light all around her. Dreams? Did we make them with our minds to help us process the loss? I hope not. I want to believe they were messages from a better place to let you and me know they are ok. Telling us , Do not mourn for them? Telling us to be glad they no longer suffer? None of know for sure. Take care. Remember the good times you had with him no matter how hard (I know) it is.
 
I lost my Mom February 2023. I'm a Christian and nowhere near as devout as her. The cancer made her unable to speak. She was ready to go and told us she loved us (my family and I.)

Mom told me a story of my Grandma, right before she passed, sat upright in the hospital bed (she had been unable to move at all, let alone sit up) opened her eyes and had a look of surprise on her face, like she was startled? My Mom isn't sure how to describe it. Then she laid back down and drew her last breath.

I don't know what to make of any of it, but the only thing I know, is we just don't understand a LOT.

I believe that your father absolutely was telling you guys he is fine and pain free!!!!! Same with my Mom and Grandmother.
 
Thank you for sharing that story.

My mom passed just last month and I'm still reeling.
Sorry for your loss. One thing losing a parent, or anyone close to you, there are always regrets. I was a good son but there were things I regret and wish I could do over. More of a later in life thing, but there were times I was not as kind and considerate as I should have been.

One time my Dad couldn't fix his irrigation system. Frustrated the heck out of him. I was annoyed with the situation and fixed it but only after telling him he couldn't fix it because "you're old, dammit". My tone was not nice.

Scott
 
Sorry for your loss. One thing losing a parent, or anyone close to you, there are always regrets. I was a good son but there were things I regret and wish I could do over. More of a later in life thing, but there were times I was not as kind and considerate as I should have been.

One time my Dad couldn't fix his irrigation system. Frustrated the heck out of him. I was annoyed with the situation and fixed it but only after telling him he couldn't fix it because "you're old, dammit". My tone was not nice.

Scott
Honestly, I don't have much at all the way of regret. I have deep and unshakable peace. I'm only "reeling" in that my emotions aren't processing very well. I've never lost someone I was super close to. Heck, I had both my grandfathers still until 2018 when they were both in their mid 90s.

I feel so much gratitude. But also I just miss her.
 
What my father took 5 years after a cancer diagnosis. That wasn't living. Colen to bowel to liver. People that drop dead or don't wake up for me it would be a blessing.
Sister kept our mother alive for 4 years in a nursing home with dementia. Had no idea who we were on most days. Physically was in fair shape for 95 and wasn't in a wheelchair.
 
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What a story...poignant and well writen....the death of a parent is a major speed bump on the road of life. Emotions long suppressed come to the surface. Subconscious thoughts can be displayed in our dreams..maybe looking for resolution. Your father had good taste in his choice of companions to see him across to the other side....I think Queen Victoria requested her Pomeranian be placed in bed with her near the end. I hope to do similarly. Thanks for sharing this, I am sure it will touch a great many on this site.
 
Sorry for your loss and may he rest in peace. It sounds like your dad had a good life and this is probably one of the better way one can hope for when leaving this world.

I only remember how my grandpa deteriorate with liver cancer, and how he went from vibrant to exhausted, telling me at one point after I won him in chess (he never loss to me before, he was a master) that I was all grown up and should start taking care of all the younger cousins as a big brother. I would never forget that in my life.

He passed away alone in the hospital because all his children were living paycheck to paycheck and had to work every day of the week. We told the doctor to withhold his medical condition (didn't tell him he had cancer) till the very last week of his life. This didn't feel right to us now but it was a typical thing to do back when people want to give dying patients hope, hoping that miracles would happen. (There's a movie called The Farewell about this).
 
Well written story sir, you can sense how much it all means to you.

I am of the firm belief that the omnipotence of God (or whatever one may wish to name) is beyond our intellectual capabilities. Sue was given a gift, as you were given as well. As for dreams, I do believe we can dream what we are thinking about, etc. I also believe without question that we can be spoken to through many mediums. I've personally had dreams that were very hard to explain/interpret.

Ultimately what you feel to be true, probably is. Thank you for sharing 🙏
 
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