Edge and GT-1 titanium work differently???

[Jeffy_D]

Im a bit confused

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this is how kendall says thier titanium additive works:
http://www.conocophillipslubricants.com/brands-products/kendall_brand/titanium.aspx#/Bonding

and this is how castrol explains how titanium helps thier oil perform better:
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9036296&contentId=7067053

Is it possible that the titanium reacts differently because of the different formulations the 2 companies use? Could there be variations of a titanium additive? or are both exagerated marketing ploys.

I just wondered if any of the additive experts could shed some light on this?

FWIW,Due to my reservations about BP, im skepticall of thier claims. I like the way kendalls idea works ( regardless if thats reality or not), reminds me of RESTORE , except without the teflon. plus for the money, kendall has great uoa's that are just as good as edge for probably 2/3's the cost.

 

[volk06]

I know the edge says propiriety titanium molecule technology, so I'm guessing its just a little bit different than the Kendall. I know Castrol uses around a 50/50 calcium/magnesium forumation so maybe that requires a different titaium molecule than the striaght up calcium in the kendall. That being said, after using it, I'm a big fan of kendall for the price.

 

[Mazda3LA]

I wouldn't trust anything BP says. The gentleman I bought my Kendall stash from told me he was hired by BP to buy Kendall synthetic blend from a nearby wholesaler and sent samples of Kendall to BP. I always thought that was kind of fishy.

 

[scurvy]

Originally Posted By: Mazda3LA
The gentleman I bought my Kendall stash from told me he was hired by BP to buy Kendall synthetic blend from a nearby wholesaler and sent samples of Kendall to BP. I always thought that was kind of fishy.


Really?

Competitive surveys are part of doing business. Every place I've worked for has done it. You buy products on the open market and meticulously disassemble & reverse engineer everything you can. There's nothing illegal, immoral or bad about doing it - in fact not doing it means you are often behind your competitors.

 

[uart]

Originally Posted By: Jeffy_D
Im a bit confused
FWIW,Due to my reservations about BP, im skepticall of thier claims. I like the way kendalls idea works ( regardless if thats reality or not)


Look they're not technical documents, they're just ads. We're lucky that the Castrol ad doesn't show little titanium robot men tap dancing on top of the tappets and clapping their little robot hands above their little robot heads each time the cam comes around. It still wouldn't necessarily mean that there was any fundamental difference in how they actually work.

 

[friendly_jacek]

Binding to the surface of metal? You can say the same thing about ZDDP, Mo, S, and esters. Perhaps some more additives. Nothing new. Didn't they use titanium additives way back in 70's?

 

[Loobed]

Originally Posted By: scurvy
Originally Posted By: Mazda3LA
The gentleman I bought my Kendall stash from told me he was hired by BP to buy Kendall synthetic blend from a nearby wholesaler and sent samples of Kendall to BP. I always thought that was kind of fishy.


Really?

Competitive surveys are part of doing business. Every place I've worked for has done it. You buy products on the open market and meticulously disassemble & reverse engineer everything you can. There's nothing illegal, immoral or bad about doing it - in fact not doing it means you are often behind your competitors.


+1

Amsoil openly admits to buying and testing competitors oil.

 

[Loobed]

Originally Posted By: Jeffy_D


I just wondered if any of the additive experts could shed some light on this?

FWIW,Due to my reservations about BP, im skepticall of thier claims. I like the way kendalls idea works ( regardless if thats reality or not), reminds me of RESTORE , except without the teflon. plus for the money, kendall has great uoa's that are just as good as edge for probably 2/3's the cost.



I am not an expert.

This statement sounds fishy: "It contains a patent pending liquid titanium molecule that increases motor oil strength."

Does it act like a rebar in concrete? Maybe it forms a grid that helps helps bond the oil molecules together. That knowledge is beyond what I know about chemistry.