ecoboost 3.5

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: edyvw


All this [censored] about magnatec and other semi-synthetic oils etc. forget about it...


Really?

Yes, really!


EB has been out long enough where if a systemic issue existed with the platform and/or lube (other than the switch from 5W20 to 5W30), it would have been covered here, not just anecdotal situational one-offs. Thousands of 3.5 EB Fords are running 5W30 Motocraft blend without issue. The vast majority of these owners oblivious to what oil spec is necessary, and service at the dealership under a maint pkg. "Just fill 'er up with what's recommended in my manual"

Good for them.

 

[dman4384]

Originally Posted By: boostnation
Hello there everyone!
Been lurking on here researching oil on about every lunch break this year. My situation is a little unique. My daily commute to work is rather high then on the weekends I am consistently towing heavy in the Texas heat. If I could for the life of me figure what oil to at least be decent in my engine with the fuel dilution these are known for. The general consensus out there is run whatever just change more often if you're worried. Then I was reading about how terrible some oil is in other direct injection engines. I'm also a little afraid of running something like amsoil for extended time as how heavy and far I'm towing I just can't risk it.


I have a similar duty cycle with my F150 ecoboost. It's a great truck and pulls like crazy, but it also dilutes the oil with fuel really really bad.

My 5w30 was diluting down to 20 weight within a thousand miles. I can't imagine running 10,000 miles on one change with this engine.

I finally settled on this mix which is so far good for 3,000 miles:

5 quarts Amsoil 5w30 SSO
1 quart Amsoil 5W50 SSO.

This yields a heavy 30 weight, but with the fuel dilution at 3,000 miles it's still just barely 30weight. I'm going to try or 5,000 this oil change cycle.

Below is my oil analysis. The last one (#5) is where I finally got it dialed in

 

[BrocLuno]

Most of the USA synthetics are actually blends. Some are just honest about stating it up front. There is absolutely nothing wrong with blends and they may give benefits in that most dino oils have a higher surface tension and maintain cold capillary fill better when engines sit for a while (weeks or months). So having a good slug of dino along with your syn is not a bad thing.

Real synthetics (Motul 300v Ester, Redline, etc.) may not be the best for daily driven vehicles ... May work out fine. Only UOA's will tell.

Although, they do excel at standing up to fuel dilution. Just ask the boys running nitro motors who run Redline because those engines push a LOT of fuel into the oil while to motors are under a lot of stress and spinning some big RPM

 

[boostnation]

I think I'm going to try pennzoil ultra platinum on my next oil change and go from there. While possibly not the best possible oil choice on the planet I'm leaning on it not being a poor/damaging choice either and not costing a ton.

 

[SR5]

Originally Posted By: boostnation
I think I'm going to try pennzoil ultra platinum on my next oil change and go from there. While possibly not the best possible oil choice on the planet I'm leaning on it not being a poor/damaging choice either and not costing a ton.


I think the Pennzoil / Shell synthetics built on Grp 3+ GTL (Gas To Liquid) base oils are very good products. Nice low Noack volatility, and for me they appear to clean the engine well.

 

[Nickdfresh]

The Fords have intercoolers and are designed to be run on a good conventional or syn blend. That being said, I'd run full synthetic 5w30 all day...

 

[boostnation]

Does anyone have any third party tests results on pennzoil ultra platinum 5w30? I read somewhere to watch out for it because it has poor noack tests results

 

[itguy08]

Originally Posted By: CT8
Originally Posted By: itguy08
I've used Pennzoil Platinum in both of my EB 3.5's. Cheap enough and combined with a Fram Ultra I've got a ton of protection.
Protection from ???


In the case of the synthetic oil, I tow a 9900lb trailer with the F150 and while I change the oil about every 6 months (about 5-6k) I feel better with the extra wear protection that a synthetic provides. The early F150's have had some phaser and chain issues so I'd like to keep wear down. The Fram has one of the best filtering so keeping the oil clean should also have some protection.

In the SHO I just want good oil and protection. Coming up on 104k on it and it runs great. Most of that up to 70k or so has been on dealer oil/filters and since then Pennzoil Platinum and Fram Ultra.

Since they both take the same filter it's easy to buy. Only downside is the Taurus takes 5w20 while the F150 is 5w30. Probably not needed on either but doing it myself with these products is about the same I was paying the dealer so it's a wash.

 

[itguy08]

Originally Posted By: dman4384
I have a similar duty cycle with my F150 ecoboost. It's a great truck and pulls like crazy, but it also dilutes the oil with fuel really really bad.

My 5w30 was diluting down to 20 weight within a thousand miles. I can't imagine running 10,000 miles on one change with this engine.


If it's that bad you have other issues going on. There have been bad HPFPs on the Ecoboosts that will leak into the crankcase. IIRC the test procedure was to drive the truck, drain the oil, put the plug back in the pan, wait overnight and if you get gas you have a leak. If no gas it's not that.

If you've got a 2011-2013 there is a TSB out for fuel in the oil.

IOW - if it's that bad it's not normal.

 

[4WD]

Ok, I saw a chart here where PUP was low NOACK - so ordered 5w30 off Amazon for my eB ...

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: boostnation
Does anyone have any third party tests results on pennzoil ultra platinum 5w30? I read somewhere to watch out for it because it has poor noack tests results

Read where? What's poor about its Noack results?

 

[Black_Thunder]

Just curious....does anyone run 5w40 HDEO in their ecoboost?