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Originally posted by Filter guy:
Poor ol' lubeowner..he's going to take his ball home and not play anymore.
99, you're right it's time to put up or shut up. So apparently lubeowner wants to shut up.
What a baby.
I'm tired of his woe is me attitude.
If he wants to think people are questioning his credibility, so be it. It's tiresome and stupid.
He's posted some interesting pictures. Not ONE person has questioned the pics.
What people do want to know is more information about the pictures. There is where lubeowner has taken his ball home and refused to play.
If he ( and others in here) can't seperate the difference between the filter and lubeowner himself. Then be children and take your ball home.
That's all most of us have been asking. About more information on the filter . It is the filter that has had the problem. Not the picture. Not lubeowner.
I find it real interesting that lubeowner sells a particular brand of filter and after cutting open their product that he has not contacted the filter manufacturer about what he is finding. Champ has a toll free number. He can contact them via internet. But he has time to post in here and spend weeks on threads about them.
It's not about lubeowner sending filters to joe consumer who reads these forums. It's about sending them in to be tested. I don't personally care if it is a Champ, Fram, Wix, Baldwin, Purolator, Fleetguard, Donaldson, Mann..or whatever brand. If you have a problem send it to them. They have all the testing equipment, do you--joe consumer?
I have also offered my unemployed son , who lives with 15-20 minutes of his shop, to go by and help document the information that has been asked. So far..no responce.
I offered to come by, on my vacation months from now, and help. So far nothing but excuses about being gone.
I offered assisitance. But all I'VE heard are excuses about not being available.
So yeah, someone's taken their ball home..
I suppose those who are so intellectual can look at pictures and say...see, see, see..
So the next time you see a picture of a car that's been in an accident..you know exactly why. Just from the picture. You'll make a great witness on the witness stand with your ability to "know" what happened. The same with looking at a picture of a cut open filter and "knowing" the answer. I'm glad you filter detective super sluths can look at a picture and know without a doubt the reason for the problem in the picture.
Heck, Champ, Fram, Wix, Purolator, etc might as well scrap their test equipment and hire you lot. Why, the filter companies have 50 years plus of data and test information and all you have to do is look at a picture and you know the answer. It will be way more cost effective to hire you. ( where's that tounge in cheek smilie)
ANY filter company will want information about a filter that is returned. Would you return one off your car without telling the manufacturer how many miles were on the car and how many miles there had been between oil changes? Well if you don't. I'll guarantee you they will ask you for it.
So why won't lubeowner post that information? And any other information that might be relivant. Does his lube shop not log in the vehicle miles? I don't care if you cut open one filter, ten, a hundred..if you find one of interest..have the basic information on the one that is of interest.
So, to me, it's not lubeowner that is being questioned..it's the filter and the information about the filter.
Anyone that thinks otherwise, go ahead and take your ball home.
PS: Lubeowner claimed he had sent a box of filters back to Champ and he would post the results of what Champ tells him.
Then when I asked if they have arrived yet..they were sent to his distributor because his distributor want to see them first.
I have asked twice to see if he has followed up with his distributor to see if the box of filters were sent to Champ.
And the answer is??? We still haven't heard.
This is one item lubeowner himself can clear up.
