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E-Bike Fire Warning
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Point being, people use power to their advantage. There is usually a trade off for power density.This is great!
I can't build a fence 1000 feet from my closest 120V outlet without trading something.......could build by hand, could by ditching out 240V.....or something in between. Cordless seems most logical.
And with whatever means, use safety protocols for that power source.
Every Home Depot / Lowes/ Menards have 100s of these batteries in every store. Never heard of any fire in any of them. If it was such an issue, insurance would be a problem.
What's the rate of cord fires vs lithium battery fires again?
Unknown! Have you seen stats?
I did some searching. The largest hindrance in data reliability are the many "mobile" devices, from crap scooters to high end cars using batteries, verses NONE of these devices using cords. So pretty tough to compare.
SO, actually I see there are more fires from corded devices vs. stationary battery devices.
Also I present the billions of cell phones in use, and they very very low fire rate.
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I'm just passing on my experience after purchasing a ton of lithium batteries over the years. This technology has been around for a while now so we shouldn't be seeing so many fires. If the "big guys " have it all figured out and aren't telling everyone else how to fix the problems then the corporate business model is broken and we as consumers shouldn't support this behavior.
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A couple months back a home depot burned because of a radio battery.
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Everything has a risk. I still use them even though I've seen several burn. The narrative we see most often is that they are all safe and people take them into their home but as soon as something happens they just can't understand what happened. I personally would like people to know the risk before little Johnny plugs in his ebike or new Milwaukee drill he got for Christmas and it burns his whole family and a couple of neighbors.
I thought one failure mode was the formation of crystal spikes or fingers that cause internal short circuit leading to thermal run-away.
I haven't read this yet, seems to be authoritative in this regard:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8510069/
Here is my first lithium tool battery from 8 years ago. Still works great. No fires yet.
Often it’s poor quality cells and/or charging devices. I remember the rash of “hoverboard” fires a decade ago. They often had the cheapest possible battery systems to save on costs. Also recall the various vape pens that caught on fire. Most were from use of a different USB power supply. They were made inexpensively where it was a complete, dumb circuit reliant on the OEM power supply to prevent overcharging, rather than a digitally controlled charging circuit. So users started charging them with random USB power supplies that provided too much current, which wasn’t limited by the device as with something like a tablet or mobile phone.
My first lithium-ion battery devices were a laptop computer and a compact digital camera in 2002. I did cheap out and buy some aftermarket batteries for the camera. They didn’t catch on fire, but didn’t last long, seemed to lose capacity early, and one had a tough time fitting in the battery compartment.
I’ve had a few batteries swell on me. Even Apple devices.
This was the first one I checked
What is a surprise to me is I don't think many Lowes or Homedepots have burned yet from all those battery devices they have all over the place. I suppose its in the tea leaves it will happen some day.
According to the US Center for Disease Control, the odds of being hit by a car are 1 in approx 5,000. The odds of dying from it are 1 in 50,000. Not sure what that means but I guess if you cross a street 50,000 times you might get killed.
Last week, a fellow in our small town got hit and died from a pedestrian accident. I hope he wasn’t wasting his time thinking about lithium batteries. Did someone mention the odds of your lithium battery burning down your house are one in a million?
Last week, a fellow in our small town got hit and died from a pedestrian accident. I hope he wasn’t wasting his time thinking about lithium batteries. Did someone mention the odds of your lithium battery burning down your house are one in a million?
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I guess it depends where you live. Live in a big metropolitan area like NYC and the surrounding areas and those odds go up I bet. I take statistics like that with a grain of salt.
They don’t generally allow any demos of battery powered items. The place to worry about that would be at an Apple Store or Best Buy.
So you are saying the batteries being sold don’t spontaneously burn?
