Dummy ran a red light, wrecked my Cruze.

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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Incredible that a $15-20k car with 9k miles would be totaled with what seems to be a fairly low amount of body damage (yes, I acknowledge that crumple zones crumple and lots of energy was taken up by the vehicle). Makes the dynamics of having/keeping collision/comp different these days... What interests me is if you were the only occupant, why did all the airbags go off? Seems like an expensive proposition...

Anyway, the car did what it was meant to do, so that's good. Glad you're ok.


Personally I would not want that rolling rebuilt wreck back and the body issues(they all have them) after as it would never be perfect.
 
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Incredible that a $15-20k car with 9k miles would be totaled with what seems to be a fairly low amount of body damage (yes, I acknowledge that crumple zones crumple and lots of energy was taken up by the vehicle). Makes the dynamics of having/keeping collision/comp different these days... What interests me is if you were the only occupant, why did all the airbags go off? Seems like an expensive proposition...

Anyway, the car did what it was meant to do, so that's good. Glad you're ok.

There was a study some years ago showed that the total of all parts was about 4-5 times the MSRP of the car.

The front is badly damaged, parts alone probably cost more than $7-8k plus thousands for labor. So the repair total is probably close to a brand new Cruze.


At retail with dealer markup perhaps. Obviously it isnt really the case or else the businesses would not be building cars.
 
Originally Posted By: Jim74
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Glad you're ok! Bet you are glad you had the dash cam, otherwise the other driver would say his light was green. (What brand is it?)

As far as the total, the sum of front end parts plus doors plus probably subframe and the labor exceed 75 or 80% of vehicle value -- history shows once you get to that level of damage, a repaired vehicle usually has continuing problems related to the accident, powertrain included.

If you liked the vehicle you can always replace with the same. Make sure the other insurance company pays you what it would cost to replace, and know that you can dispute their offers if it is not enough to do so.



I have gap coverage, so it will get paid off.

The dashcam is one I bought from Amazon, Dashcam link

The video quality is fantastic.


jim,
I am glad you are ok,
So what did the other guy say to the police after the accident?
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Incredible that a $15-20k car with 9k miles would be totaled with what seems to be a fairly low amount of body damage (yes, I acknowledge that crumple zones crumple and lots of energy was taken up by the vehicle). Makes the dynamics of having/keeping collision/comp different these days... What interests me is if you were the only occupant, why did all the airbags go off? Seems like an expensive proposition...

Anyway, the car did what it was meant to do, so that's good. Glad you're ok.
My Sonata is in the shop right now with $7700 worth of repairs due to quarter/golfball sized hail, so I'm not at all surprised that this vehicle is totaled. If nothing else, the process of fixing the unibody will probably cost more than the car is worth, and it won't ever be right anyway.
 
Originally Posted By: mattwithcats
Cruze diesel is getting poor reviews. Look for a late 2012 or higher gas Cruze
They changed the tranny to higher gears in late '12...

Car is a plastic shell over a uni-body frame. Even a modest impact breaks the heck out of them.

AC is weak and noisy, plastic is soft, scratches easily, and from 2013 up CD player is deleted.

You can do better...
Yeah, but like the Subaru commercial says, "he lived." That, alone would make a Cruze at the top of my list.
 
Glad to hear you walked away. Modern cars are ridiculously safe -- even the most horrific-looking crashes are totally survivable.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
At retail with dealer markup perhaps. Obviously it isnt really the case or else the businesses would not be building cars.
I am trying to understand what you are saying. Can you clarify your point? Are you saying that manufacturer should sell parts to body shop with 75% discount over the retail price? I presume you do agree that if you add up all the parts at their retail price in a car, it will cost way over 4X the new car price. It has been always like that.

I think you are an engineer. Do you think you could build an exact circuit board from parts obtained from mouser or mcm or similar mail order place and build it for what it costs your company to do it? And at what price would you sell it if you could build it? Of course, this is not exactly apples to apples comparison because a transistor with a certain specification is similar to another transistor with the same specification but a fender needed in Camry 1999 could not be used in the Accord 2005. That alone is going to make rebuilding a car in to different scale of problem.

I am just trying to understand if you are arguing for argument sake or if there is some point that I am missing.
 
Glad you are ok. I had an accident a few years ago. Someone in the snow/ice didn't have enough room to stop, ran right into him. Cars were completely demolished, everyone walked away. Pretty amazing when you see something like this and know everyone is ok. You said you have a dash cam, can you upload the video?
 
Be VERY grateful that you are healthy. If you have any aches or pains, see a doctor to document it in case you go downhill later.

My wife was hit head on 6 years ago on Dunckel Road by an uninsured, unlicensed driver and she suffers life long health issues.

Enjoy picking out a new car. Glad you are o.k..
 
Your Cruze did its job and kept you from being severely hurt. That dashcam just paid for itself about 100 times over or more!

Not sure what the Cruze diesel (or Cruze) hate is about, the owners I've run into love their Cruze diesels. 50+ mpg in a quiet, comfortable, so far proving reliable family sedan is nothing to sneeze at. And the Cruze itself is proving to be a generally reliable (and very safe) car.
 
Originally Posted By: Vikas
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
At retail with dealer markup perhaps. Obviously it isnt really the case or else the businesses would not be building cars.
I am trying to understand what you are saying. Can you clarify your point? Are you saying that manufacturer should sell parts to body shop with 75% discount over the retail price? I presume you do agree that if you add up all the parts at their retail price in a car, it will cost way over 4X the new car price. It has been always like that.

I think you are an engineer. Do you think you could build an exact circuit board from parts obtained from mouser or mcm or similar mail order place and build it for what it costs your company to do it? And at what price would you sell it if you could build it? Of course, this is not exactly apples to apples comparison because a transistor with a certain specification is similar to another transistor with the same specification but a fender needed in Camry 1999 could not be used in the Accord 2005. That alone is going to make rebuilding a car in to different scale of problem.

I am just trying to understand if you are arguing for argument sake or if there is some point that I am missing.


All I'm saying is that if Chevy builds, say, 1000 cars, and makes 1200 of each part, obviously the parts cost to Chevy is less than the msrp of the car.

So it's because they are being sold at retail markup that they are 4-5x or whatever of cost of the car on a parts basis. But it's just an artificial value that is merely the number of touches of people who have to make some money off of it. It's not any different than any other item. But if the dealer sells an airbag for $1000 to account for profit, labor, warehouse space, shipping and transport, theft, taxes, benefits, etc, the reality still just is that it costs gm, say, $200 to make it and put it in the car.
 
GM isn't going to sell it to the dealer for their cost to install it on the line. It's not all dealer markup...most of the markup is on the manufacturer's end.

You really want to see how to total a car...price parts for something like a Hyundai Equus.
 
Someone mentioned they wanted to see the dashcam video. I have a version I sent to the cops and my insurance company. But there is some NSFW language after the accident. I trimmed that off and uploaded it to photobucket to share it here, so all you will see is the accident. The quality isn't nearly as good as the original, but you get the idea.


Dashcam video of the accident
 
Originally Posted By: sciphi
Your Cruze did its job and kept you from being severely hurt. That dashcam just paid for itself about 100 times over or more!

Not sure what the Cruze diesel (or Cruze) hate is about, the owners I've run into love their Cruze diesels. 50+ mpg in a quiet, comfortable, so far proving reliable family sedan is nothing to sneeze at. And the Cruze itself is proving to be a generally reliable (and very safe) car.


I test drove a Cruze diesel, I thought it was very nice. I'm still looking around. Also test drove a few trucks, I liked the new Ram quite a bit more than the Silverado or the Ford, though that weird gear selecting knob on the dash threw me off, lol.
 
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Originally Posted By: Jim74
Someone mentioned they wanted to see the dashcam video. I have a version I sent to the cops and my insurance company. But there is some NSFW language after the accident. I trimmed that off and uploaded it to photobucket to share it here, so all you will see is the accident. The quality isn't nearly as good as the original, but you get the idea.


Dashcam video of the accident


I appreciate seeing how quickly it happened, especially when it seemed that everything was just so normal and routine right before it happened.

In less than 3 seconds, everything changes. Everything is fine at :40... and everything is not fine by :43. And yes, the audio would have needed editing with just about anyone in that situation.

Thanks for sharing.
 
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