100000% my point exactly.
Dumbest Ford Thing Ever - 2025 F150
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100000% my point exactly.
Land Rover has been doing this since 2010 with their rotary knob selectors. It’s nothing new just what people would class as a premium function that’s became standard on a volume vehicle.
i have no idea what's going on
[poor european manual noises]
[poor european manual noises]
At least on everything certified to tow per J2807 they have to be able to hold the trailer on a grade at the maximum trailer weight with just the parking brake, so they tend to be pretty good these days.
At least when new, and unsalted.
"The SAE J2807 standard mandates that a tow vehicle's parking brake must hold the fully loaded vehicle and trailer on a 12% grade both uphill and downhill. This is a crucial safety requirement within the standard, ensuring the vehicle and trailer can be safely parked on inclines. "
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Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Respectfully: Citroën DS BVH, Renault Twingo Easy.
Step aside, amateurs !!!
Scarily yours: Saab Sensomatic.
Appears to be a good safety feature. I think this is similar to both of my vehicles not locking the driver side door if the keys are still in the ignition. Vehicles getting safer with less reliant input is a good thing. Is the e brake stronger than the "parking pawl"? 
It dawned on me, after a good dinner, what the problem really is--
There's two majorly wrong things in the OP's video:
-column shifter
-a physical key
I mean, who on earth buys a such a base model that would come with those two antiquated "features"? Like, everyone else has moved onto push button start and console shifting. Only old people would prefer these, and as such, I've come to realize, that this is Ford's way to trigger Boomers. That must be what it is, they know these things shame youngsters into higher trim levels while annoying others likewise into those higher trims.
There's two majorly wrong things in the OP's video:
-column shifter
-a physical key
I mean, who on earth buys a such a base model that would come with those two antiquated "features"? Like, everyone else has moved onto push button start and console shifting. Only old people would prefer these, and as such, I've come to realize, that this is Ford's way to trigger Boomers. That must be what it is, they know these things shame youngsters into higher trim levels while annoying others likewise into those higher trims.
i was also actually surprised to see that in a new car. even the cheapest cars now have pushbutton start
Ford F150 is a fleet vehicle and guessing keys cheaper for purchase and appealing to fleet owners not if but when they get lost.
I can hear it now. My F150 had unintended acceleration and took me for a 120MPH joy ride down the interstate, everyone told me to put it in neutral. 
I suddenly want a vehicle with that feature
My question is, why have all of the annoying beepers and warnings if the transmission shifts into park automatically anyways? Why can’t these be silenced?
Personally I wouldn’t mind the shifter doing it, but I hate the chimes, beeps and warning noises today’s cars emit. Super annoying IMO.
And if the answer is liability, then it’s our own and the court system fault, not the manufacturers.
Personally I wouldn’t mind the shifter doing it, but I hate the chimes, beeps and warning noises today’s cars emit. Super annoying IMO.
And if the answer is liability, then it’s our own and the court system fault, not the manufacturers.
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Because you might know your vehicle, but not the one you'll rent tomorrow.
Nannying you into getting used to not put it in park because it does it on its own if you forget without reminding you that you shouldn't do it is borderline criminal. The thing is supposed to teach you Pavlov dog style that you have to put any vehicle you drive in park before getting out (or be aware it's happening if you do it anyway).
That, and federal regulations, FMVSS 114 not to name them.
Goes together with stepping out of the vehicle while leaving the engine running. In a closed garage it can do wonders for everyone present.
It’s amazing how regulations work. Most are probably a knee jerk reactions IMO.
In EU, which is very heavily regulated in many aspects, yet cars don’t have these chimes and warnings. I always think the car is not on because when you insert the key, it’s silent lol. Some don’t even have a clutch interlock, so you can crank while the tranny is in gear.
I always found the implementation of “nannies” interesting between America and Europe.
Hopefully built by Lucas for extra reliability??
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Europe is historically a stick shift area, born and bred on no clutch interlocks, and aware of cranking with gear engaged behavior since the dawn of times.
However, this was just a shift of the knowledge influx orifice. What is slammed in in the US via chimes, interlocks and alarms, was hammered in in Europe by the good graces of generations of driving instructors that would fail you for pretty much everything, this included. During months-long mandatory training that cost north of $1000 thirty years ago and could take half an year. With exams on driving school cars, which were stick shifts. There was even a "...start on a slope..." part of the exam.
Not sure how it is nowadays, but good luck finding anyone from my generation anywhere in Europe that wouldn't wiggle the stick left and right arcade game joystick style before attempting to turn the key, without even thinking about it.
On the flip side, the first time a W140 S-Class (brand new) made it to my neighborhood, the owner disassembled the whole shifter console in no time and started ripping and throwing connectors off, trying to figure out why the car was stuck on P (whatever that meant), and yelling at his crying wife who had last driven it.
Someone eventually whispered to him discreetly about seeing in a movie that in the US they touch the brake for some reason - superstition or something.
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