Dry rot looks like... [pics]?

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Originally Posted By: ltslimjim

By the way, planning on getting some Sumitomo HTR T4s installed before this winter(or ASAP), only original size(165/70/R13) offered for about $350 with lifetime rotation and balancing, at a local tire shop I'm willing to support.


That's a lot of money for 13 inchers!!!
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Originally Posted By: ltslimjim

By the way, planning on getting some Sumitomo HTR T4s installed before this winter(or ASAP), only original size(165/70/R13) offered for about $350 with lifetime rotation and balancing, at a local tire shop I'm willing to support.


That's a lot of money for 13 inchers!!!


I know...I want that particular size too...otherwise I could get $310-$330 range for 175/70/R13 in another brand. I was considering the Kumho Solus KR21 in that slightly larger tire(currently what I have installed), but I hear the car does best on the originals from other VX owners(its only got 92 HP and the clutch probably needs replacement/ISB perhaps as well, output seems okay, but sometimes it takes 1-2 seconds to feel like output power is transferred to the wheels.

The smaller tires are better for rolling(at 51 max PSI vs 44), and are slightly less easy for the vehicle to pull with.
 
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I'm still curious what the date code is on these tires. They look a bit worse than the tires I'm replacing after 11 years.

Note to others -- when you zoom in the picture, they really look horrible!
 
^I'll grab the figures and post in about 45 minutes or so. BRB!
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Originally Posted By: ltslimjim
Okay, they are from 2004 and were made in Canada.


Sooooo, they're over 7 years old, and don't have a whole lot of tread left on them either.

They don't owe you anything. They're done.
 
My tires are starting to look like that but they seem to still be doing well. Getting them replaced soon since I have a new set waiting. No issues with traction or air loss but I realize it is time to get rid of them since the speed limits here are 70. Would be scary to have a blowout at 75 MPH. Sadly my tires still are in much better shape even with dry rot than most cars I see parked at the mall or Walmart.
 
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Originally Posted By: ltslimjim
Okay, they are from 2004 and were made in Canada.


Sooooo, they're over 7 years old, and don't have a whole lot of tread left on them either.

They don't owe you anything. They're done.


I'm definitely trying to get the new tires, but I'm needing some cash flow for the ones I want. You know how it can be...ugh!
 
Seeing these discussions on aged tires really makes me wonder how safe our vehicles were, way back when I was in the Army.

Pretty much every deuce had tires like in the first post, with the outer layers so dry rotted that you could flake off pieces with your thumb nail. I always assumed the tires were ancient because the tread looked nothing like any other tire I've ever seen and looked more like an old Army boot tread.

They were kind of like this --

http://jeeps.thefuntimesguide.com/images/blogs/old-wwii-jeep.jpg
 
No it's not dry rot. My dad's Civic has 30,000 miles with the original tires and they have those cracks between the treads. It's caused by the tire flexing as you drive. It's perfectly normal. I put the pressure that the manual recommends in the tires. They are at 32 PSI.
 
For those of you interested or concerned, I will be getting new tires within the next 30 days. Costco has an instant rebate on a set of 4 Michelin tires, giving $70 off. So, for $290 or so I'll be getting a complete set of X-Radial tires(Harmony/Destiny clones).

I would have preferred to get a tire in the size of 165/70/R13 as that is the original size and another tire(Sumitomo HTR T4) had a 51 Max sidewall PSI, where as the Michelin tire(175/70/R13) has a Max rating of 44.
 
You are getting the BETTER tire. Even one size up I'd rather have the 44max PSI Michelin over the other one.

Would have been better to get the same size but it will not matter in the end.

Bill
 
^I suppose you are right, because the 'original' size is simply becoming obsolete. If these tires last long(80k warranty?), and the car is still working well, I'll consider trying to find the "OE" size again.

Thanks for the vote of confidence in the Michelin tires, as replacements are needed and it's a great deal on them.

My only concern, aside from being able to run higher PSI(peace of mind withstanding anyway, heh), was the steering. This car has no power steering and I just had the outer/inner tie-roads replaced(new boots as well). The steering was great right after the swap, but as things 'settled in' it's gotten quite stiff at times(basically feeling as it did before replacing the tie rods...perhaps my steering rack is just not what it used to be new lol). The smaller original would probably handle better, that was my reasoning. If better MPG/fuel efficiency gains could be had, that was a plus for me. I don't necessarily want to run all out PSI, I just wanted more headroom in the other tire(running between 45-48 PSI on those tires)...instead the Michelin's should do fine around 44 PSI.

If we had more snow here in GA, I'd try harder for the Sumitomo tires for this reason, as last year it was murder attempting to drive around on these lame Goodyear Viva2 tires with worn outer tie rods...then again the snows here are really damp and heavy, thus the freezing/icing over aspects post 'snow' storms.
 
Originally Posted By: johnsmellsalot
No it's not dry rot. My dad's Civic has 30,000 miles with the original tires and they have those cracks between the treads. It's caused by the tire flexing as you drive. It's perfectly normal. I put the pressure that the manual recommends in the tires. They are at 32 PSI.


Yes its normal, but it is dry rot. Mileage has less to do with it then age, or the conditions the tire has faced.
 
To the OP. I didnt even know those VX's came with a 165 diameter tire. I thought 175 was for all those models, DX, VX, CX, etc. If your a Bridgestone fan, I would look into their Insignia sized at 175/70/13. That is what I run and would probably continue to do so at $50 a pop.
 
Originally Posted By: iluvhonda
To the OP. I didnt even know those VX's came with a 165 diameter tire. I thought 175 was for all those models, DX, VX, CX, etc. If your a Bridgestone fan, I would look into their Insignia sized at 175/70/13. That is what I run and would probably continue to do so at $50 a pop.


The VX came with light-weight aluminum alloy wheels; 13s stock, and the original tire was 165 indeed. The HX succesor to the VX, 96-00(?) also had these same wheels. Very nice look on a Civic, by the way. IMO.

VX wheels

I'm trying to stay as close to that size as possible. I can't afford a strange wear pattern developing on an awkward sized tire for these light wheels.

...and Costco won't install tires with this 'deal' starting Thursday, if it's not close to OEM size for the wheel, etc.
 
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