Drove a Ford Fusion Energi

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I took a fully charged, new Ford Fusion Energi for a test drive. For those who don't know, it's the "plug in hybrid" version. Normally, I would not post a review on a simple test drive, but this one warrants it.

First, unlike the Nissan Leaf, Chevy Volt, and especially the Tesla, this thing is slow and unresponsive in EV mode. Yes, it will accelerate all the way up to about 65MPH, given enough time. But, I could not get it to go any faster in EV mode. Too bad, as the highway speed limit here is 70. Maybe, under different conditions, it could have gone a bit faster. Maybe not. In any case, it did not display any of that typical "electric car" mid range torque that is so satisfying. It simply felt like I was needlessly holding up traffic. The battery capacity is small, so EV range is quite limited.

Once I switched to normal engine mode, the car drove much like a typical Fusion Hybrid. Quiet enough, smooth and more than fast enough to keep up with traffic and confidently pass others. However, in this mode the battery did not seem to deplete. So, I don't believe it was helping the MPG's much.

Overall, I'd describe the power, the throttle response and the electric motor feel as "numb". The regen mode, was also less aggressive than other hybrid cars and seemed to be unable to recapture energy fully. In other words, I was into the brakes on most stops.

Conclusion: This car does not have a big enough electric motor/battery combo to deliver a satisfying driving experience. While it may save fuel in EV mode, it will do so at the expense of the cars behind it. And, I can't imagine any driving enthusiast spending more than a few minutes in this car.

For a valid comparison, a VW microbus with 46HP engine and a load of surfers is equally fast.

OK, we get it cujet, it's slow in EV mode. What about the rest of the car? The steering is typical of modern cars, it feels acceptable and is reasonably responsive. The seats are very comfortable, and the rear seat leg room seems improved from previous generation Fusions. Still, the rear is a just a bit tight for full sized adults. The interior is typical modern Ford, that is to say, quite nice indeed. Even the stereo sounds great. Fit and finish of the body was excellent, and the trunk still had enough room to be quite practical.

The advantage of the Fusion Energi is the price. A full $10,000 less than a similarly equipped Volt.
 
Hmmm.... Never really understood why someone would take an ev like that on the highway, IMO it's not where the car is optimized to go.

I don't mind a less aggressive regen, because it means slower recharge rate which equates to longer life on the li-ion battery.

Curious what the torque rating is for the ev only mode. And if it will run in "coordinated" modes with the engine when the battery is at full soc. remember that when full, the battery has to be more conservative with all ops except discharge, though the slow performance you mention is quite interesting, and must just be a drivetrain issue?

Good review, if unfortunate. Seems Ford needs to tune this car a bit. A coworker has the fusion hybrid and absolutely loves it. Perhaps this is an example though of where the design limits end on purpose-specific drivetrains and vehicles for multi-mode ops, vs fitting many kinds into one vehicle.

How many kwh is this car's battery vs the volt?
 
Volt base price, $34,185, fully loaded with destination is about $38,950 when I added most of the big options.

Fusion Energi base price, $38,700, fully loaded with destination is about $47,025 when I check off most of the options. It did mention $4,007 in incentive that brought the price down to $43,018.

I prefer the powertrain of the Volt, but I need a 5 passenger car so I'd never buy a Volt at this point in my life. Perhaps the Energi would work fine for my wife. Lots of local driving, rarely on the interstate, short trips are common.
 
Wow that's an expensive fusion!

Have to do the math if the ev mode is worth it (sure electric is 15c/kwh vs gas that is MUCH more). Iirc the hybrid is rated at 47 as it is. For those dollars I'd buy the Lincoln version.
 
Originally Posted By: Miller88
Does Ford still source their Hybrid technology from Toyota?


??

They never did. They had a patent-sharing thing happen with Toyota because their systems were very similar in design.
 
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Wow that's an expensive fusion!

Have to do the math if the ev mode is worth it (sure electric is 15c/kwh vs gas that is MUCH more). Iirc the hybrid is rated at 47 as it is. For those dollars I'd buy the Lincoln version.



The tax rebates bring the price down further, and of course the thinking is that you'll use less gas. But I agree, a lot of money for a Fusion.
 
I drove the Fusion Energi earlier this summer at a Ford event. I agree that full electric mode is not that speedy, but for creeping around at low speeds it is sufficient. If I drove in a lot of slow-moving traffic or even in a big city, I'd probably use EV mode a lot.

I think it's a good vehicle and proof that hybrids don't have to be bizarre-looking or sacrifice good driving dynamics.
 
After years of mediocre hybrid offerings the new Accord Hybrid could be a game-changer in this class. It incorporates the good attributes of the new Accord, has an all-new 3 mode hybrid system with EV mode (battery only, short distances), Hybrid mode (engine powers an electric generator/motor similar to the Volt), and Direct-drive mode (engine drives wheels through a single speed transmission at highway speeds) without the driveability quirks Hybrid Synergy Drive still has. Plus it gets better mileage than smaller Prius, and has a starting price that makes recouping the cost premium more realistic. They also released a plug-in but this seems to be much better bang for the buck since it seems to be easy to exceed the EPA rating on the straight hybrid from what most reviewers are seeing.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20131010/CARREVIEWS/131009810

http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-drive-2014-honda-accord-hybrid.html

http://vtec.net/forums/one-message?message_id=1166155
 
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Hmmm.... Never really understood why someone would take an ev like that on the highway, IMO it's not where the car is optimized to go.



I did not mean to imply the Fusion Energi has sufficient power for EV only, city ops, It does not. It is not optimized for anything other than MPG. Certainly, in the city, if you select EV mode, you will not be keeping with normal traffic flow around here.

Lets look at this another way. If the electric motor/battery are insufficient to achieve highway speeds, they are insufficient to achieve reasonable acceleration. The two are closely matched.

In addition, like many Americans, I commute. I'd like,,,, correction,,, I'd love an Electric Car. Even a plug in hybrid. But it has to be fun.
 
Originally Posted By: dparm
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Wow that's an expensive fusion!

Have to do the math if the ev mode is worth it (sure electric is 15c/kwh vs gas that is MUCH more). Iirc the hybrid is rated at 47 as it is. For those dollars I'd buy the Lincoln version.



The tax rebates bring the price down further, and of course the thinking is that you'll use less gas. But I agree, a lot of money for a Fusion.


Yeah but I was really talking in comaprison to the Volt and to the fancier hybrid version, which IIRC is EPA 47 MPG.
 
Originally Posted By: Cujet
In addition, like many Americans, I commute. I'd like,,,, correction,,, I'd love an Electric Car. Even a plug in hybrid. But it has to be fun.


I'd be fine with a (low cost) non-fun EV, assuming it'd have about 120mile range in the dead of winter, and not too much of a stripper (mostly it can't be loud penalty box). TCO would have to be pretty good though, and it'd live its life on the highway.
 
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