Driver Education and Lane Discipline Rant

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Out at the weekend driving south on Woodward Ave, here in the metro Detroit area. For those that don't know it, Woodward Ave is designated an M1 route (possibly the first in the US) meaning it is a historically designated route running from Detroit north to cities/towns, some 20+ miles and has been around since the early days of motor vehicles. Today it is a three lane each direction road (NOT a highway) with a wide grassy median in parts. Has been made more famous by the annual Dream Cruise in recent years, with classic cars cruising up and down to show off their finest in July/August.

Found myself following a learner driver, so in no hurry I waited for the vehicle to move over. As under the supervision of an instructor assumed it would happen with certainty, but I was wrong. After following for three or four miles, all in the left lane, they finally made their left turn (we call it a "Michigan Left"). Have asked police and others about the lane rules. Advised it remains the law to move over but is not enforced (or taught it seems!). Some have the attitude that if you are driving the speed limit you should not be overtaken, so why does it matter?

Have driven all over Europe and other parts of the world. Seems like this is the only country where this is NOT enforced. Infact if you were to overtake on the right side of a vehicle you would expect to receive a ticket/fine for dangerous driving in many countries. So for the sake of safety and patience just curious on other's thoughts. Seems this rule is NOT taught in Driver's Ed. anymore. Maybe it never was! Rant over!!
 
If it was a highway/freeway I would agree but Woodward Ave is a local road and has neighborhoods, businesses, and turning lanes on both sides of the street. IMO it would not be practical to apply the stay-right-unless-passing on any local roads.

As far as being taught, I'm sure it's still taught by some or not taught by others. Some driving "schools" do the bare minimum; just enough so the student can pass their test. I don't remember the license test having a right-lane-unless-passing question though.
 
I think section D allows the use of the left lane at all times on 3 lane roads?
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The Avenue was defined by city planner Augustus B. Woodward in 1805, and was designated as M1 in 1970. One of Detroit's most popular and famous automotive events, the Woodward Avenue Dream Cruise, takes place each August.
 
If it was a highway/freeway I would agree but Woodward Ave is a local road and has neighborhoods, businesses, and turning lanes on both sides of the street. IMO it would not be practical to apply the stay-right-unless-passing on any local roads.
I agree with Pew 100%. If its the section of Woodward that I think it is (and I'm sure it is), it has dozens of signalled cross streets and literally many dozens of left turn / crossroads. The "keep right except to pass" does not apply.
 
Unlimited speeds like certain parts of the autobahn in Germany would be impossible here because we lack lane discipline. A left lane camper cruising along at 100kph could potentially be rear ended by a car doing 300kph.

I have driven on the autobahn at around 150kph and been passed by a car travelling so fast that it rocked my car.
 
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On a surface street with three lanes in each direction, the center lane would be the fast lane as there are turns on and off from the left as well as the right.
 
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On a surface street with three lanes in each direction, the center lane would be the fast lane as there are turns on and off from the left as well as the right.
Yes, but the road I am referring to, Woodward Ave, has slip exits at almost every exit that allow you to turn for driving in the opposite direction without slowing down in your lane but in the slip exit so you don't slow traffic behind you.
 
I would have passed on the right like we do everyday in NJ. Yes, people shouldn't be putzing around in the left lane but such is life.
 
Yes, but the road I am referring to, Woodward Ave, has slip exits at almost every exit that allow you to turn for driving in the opposite direction without slowing down in your lane but in the slip exit so you don't slow traffic behind you.
You'll still encounter people slowing down early while looking for their street signs, or large trucks slowing down early just because they take longer to stop. Also, cars entering Woodward from those cross streets won't be up to full speed yet either. It's like having two right lanes.

Regulating the left lane for faster traffic and/or for passing assumes there are no turnoffs or turn-in lanes on the left side.
 
On the 495 beltway around Washington, it's 4 lanes each direction plus a couple of toll lanes. You will see drivers doing 50 in the far left lane. It's dangerous. For a long time I couldn't figure it out. Let's just say most always it's a driver from areas of the world that don't drive much. My theory is that they are hugging the left lane and Jersey wall because they can't see or judge lanes. They can see left solid lines and jersey walls.
 
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