Roofless VW, Honda went down the toilet when Hyundai and Kia were coming up, and spilling over the toilet, like a turd that just backfired on the flush. Honda lost their customer base, and Acura couldn't hold the company up enough. 10 yr/ 100,000 mi power train warranty. Honda, they cut corners, BAD, and are still trying to keep their heads above water to this day. Honda was the " Cream of the Crop" back in the late 80's- early 90's. But how in the world are you going to compete with Hyundai. Probably the BIGGEST cargo carrier in the world ?!?!?! Hyundai has capital $$$$ to do whatever they want, from their container business. Then they spin off with Kia !!! Another slap in the face with 10yr / 100,000mi power train warranty !!! Honda will never be Honda again. I had 2 new Honda's. Nothing but trouble with them. And trouble started as soon as the 5yr / 60k warranty was up. Never again.