Does it really even matter what oil?

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Originally Posted By: BuickGN
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
Originally Posted By: BuickGN

You're pretty much right. The big issue is I don't care what other people run in their cars. I don't call people cheap for running whatever is on sale. On the other hand the cheap people love to talk smack about people who spend more money on oil. AJ is notorious for this, along with posting his opinions as facts.

You also don't see the 3,000 mile OCI people attacking the extended OCI people yet you see it go the other way around all the time.

I could just as easily talk down to people that spend $60 to have a quick lube install a conventional oil and a Fram filter which costs the same as my Redline and RP filter but I don't care what others do.

These days I'm more amused than annoyed by certain peoples' ignorance.

That's an opinion.

Better oils usually keep the engine cleaner.
Usually have a higher HTHS
Usually withstand a longer OCI
Usually have a better add pack




Better oils usually keep the engine cleaner.

Conventional oils at normal ocis keep engines perfectly clean-FACT

Usually have a higher HTHS

Conventional oils have EXACTLY the correct HT/HS speced by the mfg-FACT

Usually withstand a longer OCI

Conventional oil is what is specified for the mfg intervals, in fact many oil companies recommend against extending intervals with their synthetic products-FACT

Usually have a better add pack

You have no specific info on this, just SPECULATION and when I enquired from experts here on the subject, none could say there were any differences in the make-up of the add packs-FACT

Not much more coming from your end except personal attacks and speculation, along with some dumb automotive obsessiveness.

Originally Posted By: BuickGN

These days I'm more amused than annoyed by certain peoples' ignorance.


Thinking you need Redline oil in a Honda or 600hp for the street is the definition of ignorance


LOL! I do need 600hp for the street but coming from someone with a 17 second car I wouldn't expect you to get it. As to the rest, you really need to look up the definition of fact and opinion. There's just too much here for me to pick apart, I honestly don't have the time tonight. Thanks for the entertainment. Try harder next time.


It's just an Audi,no big thing
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Audi Junkie:

All you have to do is look at the VOA's and used oil analysis of oils to see the better add packs in most Syn oils. They also have higher TBN's usually.

So the oil companies are telling us lies by saying Syn oils offer bettter protection than conventional oils? Maybe we should sue them and we can all get in on a class action suit as many of us are being taken.

Oh wait.....I haven't done all the research and development they have done.

**I would rather run an oil that is overkill than one that is one that is underkill. Plus I don't like the hassle of 3,000 mile oil changes. I prefer 5-7500 mile changes.
 
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I must say for years my father ran whatever oil was on sale and sometimes it was a brand that had no name he always got many many miles out of his cars without a problem. He would always say to me as I would pour in my M1 into my Honda "You should do what I do and just run whatever is on sale"

To be honest I am thinking about doing just that! Whatever is on sale and change it between 3 to 6K...
 
Originally Posted By: DieselTech
Originally Posted By: BuickGN
The only oddball thing I noticed when I switched to Redline was consumption in the first 1,000 miles. My Tl has never consumed a measurable amount of oil. I heard the first time consumption stories on here and dismissed them as improper checking of the oil. Then it happened to me.


This is standard MO for Redline when first using it.

I have expierence high wear metals for the 1st OCI but then after they drop back to where I want them to be. I have spoken with redline indepth about this and it seems that this is normal for the first OCI and maybe even 2 OCI depending on the condition of the engine. Redline is a very good cleaner and will "scrub" Parts. This where these wear metals come from for the first couple OCI. I believe anyone that uses redline on a normal basis will concure on this.


Of course just a single (recent) anecdote but neither of these events i.e consumption or unusually high wear # in the first run, occured for this Mazda using Red Line 0W20:

[URed Line]https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1858004/[/URed Line]
 
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Originally Posted By: 21Rouge
Originally Posted By: DieselTech
Originally Posted By: BuickGN
The only oddball thing I noticed when I switched to Redline was consumption in the first 1,000 miles. My Tl has never consumed a measurable amount of oil. I heard the first time consumption stories on here and dismissed them as improper checking of the oil. Then it happened to me.


This is standard MO for Redline when first using it.

I have expierence high wear metals for the 1st OCI but then after they drop back to where I want them to be. I have spoken with redline indepth about this and it seems that this is normal for the first OCI and maybe even 2 OCI depending on the condition of the engine. Redline is a very good cleaner and will "scrub" Parts. This where these wear metals come from for the first couple OCI. I believe anyone that uses redline on a normal basis will concure on this.


Of course just a single (recent) anecdote but neither of these events i.e consumption or unusually high wear # in the first run, occured for this Mazda using Red Line 0W20:

[URed Line]https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1858004/[/URed Line]


It was a low mileage engine though. Had he made the swap at say...80,000+ miles he probably would have seen the initial spike in metals.

In my car I lost about 1/4 quart in the first 500 miles of use on Redline, I topped it back off and it hasn't used another ounce in the last 4000 miles. Maybe he experienced similar but wasn't "anal" enough to top it off? Or maybe he just didn't see the initial consumption most do for whatever reason?
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