Does fuel economy matter to you at all?

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Yes but not obsessed with it. I have 35 mile commute (each way) so it's nice that my Camry averages low 30s.
 
Yes it matters with fuel at $7.20/gallon in the UK.

Don't imagine it drives all Europeans to very small cars though. My C class Mercedes averages over 40 MPG provided city driving is avoided.
 
Eh, somewhat. The Sonata gets 21k miles a year, at 28 mpg.

My Jeep gets about 4k miles a year, at 15 mpg.

You can see which one I prefer driving, but it's also WAY more comfortable. I'm also keeping the Jeep forever, so I'd rather not risk an accident for commuting
 
Yes absolutely. It's the first thing I consider when I buy a car.

In the 40 years I've been driving, I've always tried to ensure each new car I buy has better fuel economy than the previous one.

Since new, my current car has averaged 72 mpg (imperial) or 60 mpg (US). The car is very simple, has a 1.0 3 cylinder normally aspirated petrol engine with a relatively high, 11:0, compression ratio. The car weighs in at 840 kg (1850 lbs). I drive it with a highly advanced left foot with optical feed back control from the trip computer. However it will tootle along quite happily at 70 mph if needs be.
 
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Nope. I just don't do enough miles for it to matter.


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Originally Posted By: Claud
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Originally Posted By: edwardh1
Alfred_B said:
we went to england in 2006. 12 gallons was 100 us dollars think about that.


We have vehicles on the market today that get very good fuel economy. Toyota Yaris, Chevy Sonic, Prius C to name a few. Do you guys drive any if these?

Nobody is against better fuel economy, but people are against artificial increase in fuel costs to force people into smaller vehicles. That's what happens in England and most of Europe.


Not so.

Gas in the UK is about the same price (Adjusted for inflation) as it was in 1974.

Cars in Europe are getting BIGGER. A new VW golf weighs about the same as a Mustang. Simply to fit in all the equipmend required in a modern car makes it inevitable. In the 1950's most British cars had engines between 1-1.5 liters and got between 25-35 mpg (Imperial gallons - about 5 US quarts). A sustained 70mph drive down a USA freeway would have wrecked most of them.

Now 2 liters is about normal, in larger, heavier cars, but you might expect 30+ mpg from a gas powered car, 45 mpg from a diesel.

We aren't being squeezed into smaller car, but it sure looks like North America is. Where are the V8 behemoths that used to dominate the USA Highways?.

Claud.


You can't adjust for inflation, because if you do then the gas prices in NA are about the same as in 70s when adjusted for inflation.
What remained the same is the amount of taxation. Europe consistently taxes fuel a lot higher then US. It was a nessessity coming out of the war, bit it isn't now. The only reason they are still so high is because the nut jobs in charge want it that way.

And the V8 behemoths are still aplenty on NA roads, but they're called pickup trucks now.

Nothing wrong with that, unless you're one of the nutcases that thinks you know what's best for everyone.
 
No. It's pretty low on my list of things I'm worrying about when buying a car.

There's a lot of car and truck commercials that make it a point of emphasis, so I'm guessing there are people that care.
 
If you get to be a fat senior citizen , you come to the point where ese of getting in and out + over all comfort is more desirable than HIGH mileage .

Wife drives a Chevy Sonic for an in town car . Last June we bought a used Buick Lacrosse for a road car . But my fat bottom fits the seats in the Buick better than those in the Sonic .
 
Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
You don't have to squeeze into a little economy car to get good gas mileage.

My Ford fusion has PLENTY of room, and I'm getting an average of 32mpg. 16 miles city, 44 miles highway a day. After a full week of driving to work and back, my car has a half of a tank left. My Jeep, right now gets 15mpg, I have to refill by Friday morning before work (4 days). Granted it's lifted and bigger tires, but before that I was getting 16-17 mpg.

My 6'4 240lb father can easily fit into the fusion and has plenty of leg room.


32 mpg? Why are you driving such a gas hog? You need to be sent to a special camp for reeducation. 54 mpg is the new definition of "good" gas mileage, according to the US government. By 2025, CAFE has to be 54 mpg, or there's going to be heck to pay for the manufacturers.
 
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Originally Posted By: JeepWJ19
You don't have to squeeze into a little economy car to get good gas mileage.

My Ford fusion has PLENTY of room, and I'm getting an average of 32mpg. 16 miles city, 44 miles highway a day. After a full week of driving to work and back, my car has a half of a tank left. My Jeep, right now gets 15mpg, I have to refill by Friday morning before work (4 days). Granted it's lifted and bigger tires, but before that I was getting 16-17 mpg.

My 6'4 240lb father can easily fit into the fusion and has plenty of leg room.


32 mpg? Why are you driving such a gas hog?


Haha, short trip my Jeep in
 
I'm gigantic so low mpgs is something I'm going to have to accept to have a very comfortable vehicle. If I were 5'7" I'd probably drive something else.
 
Originally Posted By: MrHorspwer
Fuel economy is a funny thing and it makes people do and say funny things.

Like when people who bought a Hummer H2 complained about the fuel economy
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Here's another fun one. The next time someone goes on a rant about auto-stop on new cars, ask them if they'd willingly pay $2.64/gallon for fuel at a gas station when the station across the street has it for $2.40/gallon, but you have to make some annoying left turns to get there?

When you tell people that auto-stop will net them 10% better fuel economy, they say, "I don't care! It's annoying and I hate it and I will never buy a car with one!"

When you ask people if they'd rather pay $2.64/gallon or $2.40/gallon, they say $2.40 every single time (even if they have to do annoying things like left turns). It's the same 10% difference, people just respond to dollars differently than an abstract number like MPG.
I'd move if traffic was so bad auto stop netted me 10% better mpgs.
 
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Yes but function is more important. I wouldn’t wanna have to limit my hobbies cause my vehicle wasn’t capable. We Canucks pay a bit more for gas but we still have roads clogged with trucks.
 
I run a spreadsheet with every tank full on it.

It doesn't change either of our driving styles, and for example, I know that the new tyres on the Colorado have cost me 1.5MPG, it's for noting, not for any worrying.

The spreadsheet serves as a bit of a diagnostic too, if something changes, I go looking for the change.
 
Interesting but saddening that environmental protection doesn't feature AT ALL in the above statements, not even mine (though it is at the back of my mind as an underlying concern).

No Prius Posters?

Poor old planet.
 
Mileage was a consideration when we bought the current crop of vehicles.

Colorado 2.8 diesel - 24MPG US
Catpiva 2.0 diesel - 26MPG US

The petrol varietals are WAY lower (they don't do petrol Colorados at present).
 
I used to drive small, underpowered cars early in my driving life. Once I bought a truck, any concern about mpg went out the window. I drive 150 miles round trip for work using a Crown Vic~18 mpg, 7.3 F350~12 mpg,and a Ram 3500~15 mpg. I mix it up so they don't sit to long. My fuel bill is $800 a month, but I love having a bigger vehicle. I always say, you have to pay to play!
 
An issue for at the moment, I'll tossing up commutes, and it will be part of my pay negotiations...if it costs me $1 per hour to commute, then I want that much more per hour.
 
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