I am thinking its pretty odd that both Blackstone and Polaris are both in the same city. Maybe Blackstone contracts with Polaris to run the analysis and all they do is to write the dumb comments.
does Blackstone really run the oil analysis?
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Polaris is in Indianapolis, Blackstone is in Fort Wayne. They are about 2 hours apart.
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I think DNewton3 and possibly a few others have toured the Blackstone facility (there may be an article about it on the home page) and if memory serves all testing was performed in house.
They are too fast to be doing it elsewhere IMO. If I mail a sample Tuesday morning I usually have results Friday.
OK, same state, not city.
Polaris is ISO 17025 A2LA accredited.
Yes, they run their own. People have been there.
It seems strange to me that you would question whether they ran their own based solely on the evidence of 2 companies being in the same city (which whey are not). Not really sure that has anything to do with anything. Do you have a specific REASON to think they don't run their own analysis? You said they write dumb comments, one assumes you're anti-blackstone for some reason. I'm rather confused as to the reason for this thread.
It seems strange to me that you would question whether they ran their own based solely on the evidence of 2 companies being in the same city (which whey are not). Not really sure that has anything to do with anything. Do you have a specific REASON to think they don't run their own analysis? You said they write dumb comments, one assumes you're anti-blackstone for some reason. I'm rather confused as to the reason for this thread.
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Since they have their own lab instrumentation, why wouldn't they do their own analyses.
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TINMANSC: It seems strange to me that you would question whether they ran their own based solely on the evidence of 2 companies being in the same city (which whey are not). Not really sure that has anything to do with anything. Do you have a specific REASON to think they don't run their own analysis? I'm rather confused by the reason beyond this thread.
I wondered that as well.
BLACKSTONE OIL ANALYSIS with pictures
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TINMANSC: It seems strange to me that you would question whether they ran their own based solely on the evidence of 2 companies being in the same city (which whey are not). Not really sure that has anything to do with anything. Do you have a specific REASON to think they don't run their own analysis? I'm rather confused by the reason beyond this thread.
I wondered that as well.
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Strange post, indeed.
It is merely a coincidence that they're so close together.
I think Ford builds all the Chevy models.
After all, they're both in Michigan.
After all, they're both in Michigan.
Actually, their website states that some tests are performed at another facility....whether or not the other facility is a Blackstone lab is not mentioned.
I sort of agree on the (dumb) comments also....when reviewing fluid analysis, personally, I don't need it personalized....I don't need to be addressed by my name, and I don't need my chosen lab saying "we feel", "we think", "your oil looks good" and etc....all I want are the facts.
I'm not condemning Blackstone by any means and whoever chooses to use them continues to use them because they are comfortable with them. I review thousands of samples every year and expect to see certain tests performed on each sample....I can figure out what is out of specification. We also specify to our labs where we want the limits set at....sometimes we use the manufacturers recommendations, sometimes we use previous experiences.
If you look at Blackstones price list, their samples cost about the same (maybe just a touch higher) than the other name-brand labs once you add in all the tests that should be performed. For MOST users though, viscosity, contamination, and dilution are the most important.
I sort of agree on the (dumb) comments also....when reviewing fluid analysis, personally, I don't need it personalized....I don't need to be addressed by my name, and I don't need my chosen lab saying "we feel", "we think", "your oil looks good" and etc....all I want are the facts.
I'm not condemning Blackstone by any means and whoever chooses to use them continues to use them because they are comfortable with them. I review thousands of samples every year and expect to see certain tests performed on each sample....I can figure out what is out of specification. We also specify to our labs where we want the limits set at....sometimes we use the manufacturers recommendations, sometimes we use previous experiences.
If you look at Blackstones price list, their samples cost about the same (maybe just a touch higher) than the other name-brand labs once you add in all the tests that should be performed. For MOST users though, viscosity, contamination, and dilution are the most important.
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I sort of agree on the (dumb) comments also....when reviewing fluid analysis, personally, I don't need it personalized....I don't need to be addressed by my name, and I don't need my chosen lab saying "we feel", "we think", "your oil looks good" and etc....all I want are the facts.
For the average non-technical person, I think those comments are proper and give a personal connotation to the analyses.
I use Blackstone and ALS for my formulations. I make a comment on the info sheet that I want the raw data and no comments. Both labs comply.
I sort of agree on the (dumb) comments also....when reviewing fluid analysis, personally, I don't need it personalized....I don't need to be addressed by my name, and I don't need my chosen lab saying "we feel", "we think", "your oil looks good" and etc....all I want are the facts.
For the average non-technical person, I think those comments are proper and give a personal connotation to the analyses.
I use Blackstone and ALS for my formulations. I make a comment on the info sheet that I want the raw data and no comments. Both labs comply.
In past times when we used to send Blacksone samples from our stationary diesel generators, they would send us the results, then later amend the results to add the carbon/soot contamination because that part had to be send elsewhere for that part of the tests.
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I am thinking its pretty odd that both Blackstone and Polaris are both in the same city. Maybe Blackstone contracts with Polaris to run the analysis and all they do is to write the dumb comments.
It's possible that Blackstone subs excess volume or very specific tests to Polaris.
OTOH, Polaris gives more complete data with their basic tests, so maybe Blackstone subs tests in which TBN is requested?
Certainly subbing at least part of the volume is pretty common across a wide range of businesses.
I am thinking its pretty odd that both Blackstone and Polaris are both in the same city. Maybe Blackstone contracts with Polaris to run the analysis and all they do is to write the dumb comments.
It's possible that Blackstone subs excess volume or very specific tests to Polaris.
OTOH, Polaris gives more complete data with their basic tests, so maybe Blackstone subs tests in which TBN is requested?
Certainly subbing at least part of the volume is pretty common across a wide range of businesses.
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