I wouldn't say it sucks, just overly complex for what it is. The tabs and labels and such are NOT self explanatory. But a couple times through, not so bad.
Oil Analyzers vs SPEEDiagnostics
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Yeah it depends how you weight usability. They should get a UI/UX intern.
Can't argue that!
Wife got a new dual bowl automated cat food dispenser. Simple right? No, crazy complex to program the silly thing. I told her to give them a suggestion. Get rid of the two buttons and the display, write a controlling app, make it BT and do it from the phone just like the lawn sprinkler controller. In the box a pain, but on the phone butt easy.
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Can't be any worse than WearCheck; navigating their website is no picnic by any means.
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How long does it take for OA to report? Sent a sample several weeks ago now.
It's usually been in about one week for me.
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Does the report automatically generate in the Horizon app?
I don’t use the app but it does come up on your account automatically. I’d call if it’s been this long.
What OAI has to do with Amsoil?
Why you're transferred to the Amsoil site when ordering sample kits?
Oil Analyzers is Amsoil, however, they use Polaris Labs as their oil sampling lab. Polaris is a large corporation with labs around the world. They are hired by Amsoil/Oil Analyzers to do the fluids testing for them. I have my own account with Polaris. They send my tests results directly to my e-mail.
Thanks a lot! That is new for me.
I just found the Polaris order kit page too.
Well, isn't it conflict of interests an oil company (in this case Amsoil) to do oil analysis and people send them hundreds of thousands of oil samples of competitor oil companies like Mobil 1, Valvoline etc.? I understand the oil testing is performed by Polaris Labs, but still Amsoil has the opportunity to look at the oil results for free and even to charge people for that through OAI.
Anybody can send an oil sample in to oil labs; they are all over. All oil companies either have their own labs or hire it out like Amsoil. If they want to, Amsoil or any other oil company that has the million-dollar equipment, can do an in-depth analysis of a competitor's oil that may tell them some trade secrets. It would probably cost them thousands of dollars, if they have the equipment and desire. You can't tell that much from a basic oil analysis. You can't tell their "chemistry" or blend secrets from a basic $30.00 engine oil analysis. I am no expert on this stuff though, however, Bitog does have some chemist here that can give you more legitimate answers than I can.
I’ve been looking at doing oil analysis on 2 different ford eco boost looking for fuel dilution & a 7.3L gasser and keep coming back to Speed, don’t know why exactly
I’ll suck the oil up the dipstick since I use a shop to change oil & this way have better control over the samples
I’ll suck the oil up the dipstick since I use a shop to change oil & this way have better control over the samples
If you're specifically interested in accurate fuel dilution I would use Oil Analyzers instead of SpeeDiagnostix. SD says they use ASTM D3525M but it is "not in the scope of accreditation". The screenshot below is from the Analysis lab vendor they use, Predictive Maintenance. SD are typically quite low on fuel dilutiuon % (about 2/3rd lower) compared to two other labs that do use gas chromatography (Oil Analyzers and Wearcheck). Be aware that Oil Analyzers will only guarantee that they'll do the ASTM 7593 fuel dilution test if the used oil sample is less than 1 cSt from what they think it should be when fresh. WearCheck will only do ASTM 3524 if the viscosity falls below grade. OA will do it regardless for $7.50 extra but their vendor (Polaris Labs) is accreddited by A2LA. Wearcheck will do it regardless for ~$20 extra last I checked.
Caveat on SpeeDiagnostix's lab vendor's website (Predictive Maintenance):
Polaris Labs Scope of Accreditation
after your first OAI you can submit everything online.
I did with my last sample.
Also my second sample kit actually came with an example page on how to fill it out.. helps tremendously.
My one-and-only experience with OAI was buying three kits through Amsoil and sending three different virgin oil samples for evaluation. I even had my wife fill out the forms so they were legible.
When the results were sent back, they completely had the samples screwed up, as in showing thousands of miles on two of them. I tried to get them corrected by contacting OAI, then even got Amsoil involved. Basically what I learned from those three samples was I did not want to use a company who wouldn't try to make things right. This was my experience. YMMV.
This, most - well all people - never have a problem.
@rstcso , I use Polaris labs myself, I do my best at filling out their little forms, but then I get on my PC and type out the information and any other side notes I may have, for the Polaris people. That makes it unmistakably easy to read. I print it off my printer and fold it up and put it inside the sample container with the rest of their paperwork.
Even my servicing dealer tried to straighten it out and couldn't/didn't. It was a cluster.
I fixed it by not using them. Problem solved.
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