Does Amsoil have the best warranty in the industry
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If that what you want to call it. I don't see how the oil itself can have a warranty. Amsoil says 25k but go through the uoa section and see how many made it. I doubt anybody calls requesting their money back.
In this case it would always be the vehicles fault or your driving habits.
In this case it would always be the vehicles fault or your driving habits.
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I dunno. I'll say that I know of no other that is better in terms of what they dictate as the confines/limitations of the warranty.
If I remember correctly Amsoil and Mobil have similar warranties. If you're using their lubricant as directed by either your manufacturer or the oil company, they'll cover the cost to repair damages if it was caused by a failure of their lubricant.
Obviously Amsoil and Mobil's warranties are different and this is a drastic generalization of them. But yeah, I think they're among the better oil warranties available.
Obviously Amsoil and Mobil's warranties are different and this is a drastic generalization of them. But yeah, I think they're among the better oil warranties available.
Originally Posted By: sicko
If I remember correctly Amsoil and Mobil have similar warranties. If you're using their lubricant as directed by either your manufacturer or the oil company, they'll cover the cost to repair damages if it was caused by a failure of their lubricant.
Which is in all reality just about impossible. That's a great warranty - for the oil company, that is. Gotta love those marketing departments. It's like that diet plan where you buy a month's worth of food. Sell food to fat people! Can't go wrong - brilliant!
If I remember correctly Amsoil and Mobil have similar warranties. If you're using their lubricant as directed by either your manufacturer or the oil company, they'll cover the cost to repair damages if it was caused by a failure of their lubricant.
Which is in all reality just about impossible. That's a great warranty - for the oil company, that is. Gotta love those marketing departments. It's like that diet plan where you buy a month's worth of food. Sell food to fat people! Can't go wrong - brilliant!
That new Warranty that Valvoline has out, if you read the fine print is pretty darn good. They put the 3000 mile change, 4000 mile max. requirements on you but its a pretty good warranty. What I like about this warranty is that you dont have to abandon all other warranties in lieu of the Amsoil warranty. If you start going 10/12/15000 miles on a oil change, even though your dealership knows Amsoil is good oil, it is going to use this to void his obligation. My Dodge has the lifetime warranty on powertrain, therefore Iam sorta stuck with thier reccomended oil changes where it states no longer then 6,000/6 months under no circumstances and 3,000/3 months under severe service, what 80% of vehicles fall under. Its a good double warranty deal with Valvoline and if you read the fine print, they cover alot.
Originally Posted By: sicko
If I remember correctly Amsoil and Mobil have similar warranties. If you're using their lubricant as directed by either your manufacturer or the oil company, they'll cover the cost to repair damages if it was caused by a failure of their lubricant.
Obviously Amsoil and Mobil's warranties are different and this is a drastic generalization of them. But yeah, I think they're among the better oil warranties available.
Unfortunately, if you look at Mobil's site you will read their warranty is dictated by OEM specification and falls pretty short of an Amsoil-like warranty.
If I remember correctly Amsoil and Mobil have similar warranties. If you're using their lubricant as directed by either your manufacturer or the oil company, they'll cover the cost to repair damages if it was caused by a failure of their lubricant.
Obviously Amsoil and Mobil's warranties are different and this is a drastic generalization of them. But yeah, I think they're among the better oil warranties available.
Unfortunately, if you look at Mobil's site you will read their warranty is dictated by OEM specification and falls pretty short of an Amsoil-like warranty.
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
That new Warranty that Valvoline has out, if you read the fine print is pretty darn good. They put the 3000 mile change, 4000 mile max. requirements on you but its a pretty good warranty. What I like about this warranty is that you dont have to abandon all other warranties in lieu of the Amsoil warranty. If you start going 10/12/15000 miles on a oil change, even though your dealership knows Amsoil is good oil, it is going to use this to void his obligation. My Dodge has the lifetime warranty on powertrain, therefore Iam sorta stuck with thier reccomended oil changes where it states no longer then 6,000/6 months under no circumstances and 3,000/3 months under severe service, what 80% of vehicles fall under. Its a good double warranty deal with Valvoline and if you read the fine print, they cover alot.
I would put money on the fact you would have to have a TON of support for a warranty like Valvoline's. Similarly, those warranties that have "150k+ guarantees" and such are going to be interesting. I'd be willing to be you're going to have to prove the when and where of every oil change you ever made, which likely rules out DIY oil changes.
I don't disagree that you can run into warranty issues with dealerships at the drop of a hat, but there is more wiggle room for the consumer (technically, not necessarily the ignorant reality of some dealerships) than you'd think.
Although I know this isn't the best source, when it isn't written down on paper, but I called on several occasions about running a warrantied oil engineered for longer than conventional OCI's on my Pontiac and was told each time that I would not void my warranty if I went beyond the Oil Life Monitor (OLM) reading. There was also nothing that confined me to a specific number of miles.
Although I don't disagree you can run into problems with a dealership and/or manufacturer, I don't think they can technically force you to downgrade to a lesser quality oil due to mileage restrictions. They would likely have to prove maintenance negligence, which they couldn't do when they have a proven UOA in their face that says they are wrong.
Convoluted, but oh well. Nothing to argue about, just food for thought.
That new Warranty that Valvoline has out, if you read the fine print is pretty darn good. They put the 3000 mile change, 4000 mile max. requirements on you but its a pretty good warranty. What I like about this warranty is that you dont have to abandon all other warranties in lieu of the Amsoil warranty. If you start going 10/12/15000 miles on a oil change, even though your dealership knows Amsoil is good oil, it is going to use this to void his obligation. My Dodge has the lifetime warranty on powertrain, therefore Iam sorta stuck with thier reccomended oil changes where it states no longer then 6,000/6 months under no circumstances and 3,000/3 months under severe service, what 80% of vehicles fall under. Its a good double warranty deal with Valvoline and if you read the fine print, they cover alot.
I would put money on the fact you would have to have a TON of support for a warranty like Valvoline's. Similarly, those warranties that have "150k+ guarantees" and such are going to be interesting. I'd be willing to be you're going to have to prove the when and where of every oil change you ever made, which likely rules out DIY oil changes.
I don't disagree that you can run into warranty issues with dealerships at the drop of a hat, but there is more wiggle room for the consumer (technically, not necessarily the ignorant reality of some dealerships) than you'd think.
Although I know this isn't the best source, when it isn't written down on paper, but I called on several occasions about running a warrantied oil engineered for longer than conventional OCI's on my Pontiac and was told each time that I would not void my warranty if I went beyond the Oil Life Monitor (OLM) reading. There was also nothing that confined me to a specific number of miles.
Although I don't disagree you can run into problems with a dealership and/or manufacturer, I don't think they can technically force you to downgrade to a lesser quality oil due to mileage restrictions. They would likely have to prove maintenance negligence, which they couldn't do when they have a proven UOA in their face that says they are wrong.
Convoluted, but oh well. Nothing to argue about, just food for thought.
PU 15 year 500,000. vehicle must be purchased within the last 60 months and have less then 60,000 miles to qualify. Pennzoil conventional, blend and PP offer 300,000 mile warranty.
The question is do any of you think an oil company to date has paid any of these claims. I promise it would be a huge PITA for the consumer.
Honestly how many oil related failures happen, and most people don't keep their vehicles for that long anymore. Chances are it will be wrecked or have other major problems along with owners tired of consistant small issues before a major failure do to lubrication.
The question is do any of you think an oil company to date has paid any of these claims. I promise it would be a huge PITA for the consumer.
Honestly how many oil related failures happen, and most people don't keep their vehicles for that long anymore. Chances are it will be wrecked or have other major problems along with owners tired of consistant small issues before a major failure do to lubrication.
Originally Posted By: DieselTech
PU 15 year 500,000. vehicle must be purchased within the last 60 months and have less then 60,000 miles to qualify. Pennzoil conventional, blend and PP offer 300,000 mile warranty.
The question is do any of you think an oil company to date has paid any of these claims. I promise it would be a huge PITA for the consumer.
Honestly how many oil related failures happen, and most people don't keep their vehicles for that long anymore. Chances are it will be wrecked or have other major problems along with owners tired of consistant small issues before a major failure do to lubrication.
Agreed on all counts. It's marketing and so what if one of these companies had to rebuild/replace an engine here and there, it would be the proverbial drop in the bucket.
They win all-around.
Reality is it's there to sell.
PU 15 year 500,000. vehicle must be purchased within the last 60 months and have less then 60,000 miles to qualify. Pennzoil conventional, blend and PP offer 300,000 mile warranty.
The question is do any of you think an oil company to date has paid any of these claims. I promise it would be a huge PITA for the consumer.
Honestly how many oil related failures happen, and most people don't keep their vehicles for that long anymore. Chances are it will be wrecked or have other major problems along with owners tired of consistant small issues before a major failure do to lubrication.
Agreed on all counts. It's marketing and so what if one of these companies had to rebuild/replace an engine here and there, it would be the proverbial drop in the bucket.
They win all-around.
Reality is it's there to sell.
My bet is it would snow in he..ll before any of these oil companies actually pony up the coin to replace an engine. Fingers of blame would be pointed in every direction, and the oil would never be at fault.
Originally Posted By: DieselTech
PU 15 year 500,000. vehicle must be purchased within the last 60 months and have less then 60,000 miles to qualify. Pennzoil conventional, blend and PP offer 300,000 mile warranty.
The question is do any of you think an oil company to date has paid any of these claims. I promise it would be a huge PITA for the consumer.
Honestly how many oil related failures happen, and most people don't keep their vehicles for that long anymore. Chances are it will be wrecked or have other major problems along with owners tired of consistant small issues before a major failure do to lubrication.
Exactly.
PU 15 year 500,000. vehicle must be purchased within the last 60 months and have less then 60,000 miles to qualify. Pennzoil conventional, blend and PP offer 300,000 mile warranty.
The question is do any of you think an oil company to date has paid any of these claims. I promise it would be a huge PITA for the consumer.
Honestly how many oil related failures happen, and most people don't keep their vehicles for that long anymore. Chances are it will be wrecked or have other major problems along with owners tired of consistant small issues before a major failure do to lubrication.
Exactly.
They all say it has to be the lubricants fault. Other then putting vegetable oil in the bottles by mistake the probability of catastrophic failure due to the oil is almost impossible. Gradual wear, oil burning after 50,000 miles, not covered. Catastrophic failure is about it and not likely.
So, none of these are really worth the paper or bandwidth they are put forth on!
So, none of these are really worth the paper or bandwidth they are put forth on!
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