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Originally Posted by Zee09
I like the V6 over the hemi for many reasons.
As you noted it has been revised and has a great record in police use.
Seems pretty frugal in big vehicles and is easy to service.
I wonder when the eTorque system will show up in these models.
Police uses HEMI more then V6. In CO all state patrol and police cars that are coming from Dodge are using HEMI (partly due to the fact that altitude affects power).
I like the V6 over the hemi for many reasons.
As you noted it has been revised and has a great record in police use.
Seems pretty frugal in big vehicles and is easy to service.
I wonder when the eTorque system will show up in these models.
Police uses HEMI more then V6. In CO all state patrol and police cars that are coming from Dodge are using HEMI (partly due to the fact that altitude affects power).
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Originally Posted by StevieC
There is rumor of a new straight six coming. Jeep fans will be happy.
Most companies are going back to strait six (probably BMW engineers are telling them: we told you so).
Main reason is modularity of those engines. You can develop inline 4 and inline 6 on same platform (BMW is doing that for last several years) and use parts for V8 engines.
Problem will be weight distribution. For example, in BMW is not a problem since BMW for decades is obsessed with perfect weight distribution. That means engines are pushed back (hence cramp space in BWM compared to competition). But, companies that do not have such platforms (FCA) might end up with really heavy front or in some applications where space is priority (van) inline six might go transverse and that will really complicate maintenance.
There is rumor of a new straight six coming. Jeep fans will be happy.
Most companies are going back to strait six (probably BMW engineers are telling them: we told you so).
Main reason is modularity of those engines. You can develop inline 4 and inline 6 on same platform (BMW is doing that for last several years) and use parts for V8 engines.
Problem will be weight distribution. For example, in BMW is not a problem since BMW for decades is obsessed with perfect weight distribution. That means engines are pushed back (hence cramp space in BWM compared to competition). But, companies that do not have such platforms (FCA) might end up with really heavy front or in some applications where space is priority (van) inline six might go transverse and that will really complicate maintenance.
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Originally Posted by edyvw
Originally Posted by Zee09
I like the V6 over the hemi for many reasons.
As you noted it has been revised and has a great record in police use.
Seems pretty frugal in big vehicles and is easy to service.
I wonder when the eTorque system will show up in these models.
Police uses HEMI more then V6. In CO all state patrol and police cars that are coming from Dodge are using HEMI (partly due to the fact that altitude affects power).
I can buy that model from a dealer here. But here in the small towns it's always the V6
But I do know what you are saying- no argument there
Originally Posted by Zee09
I like the V6 over the hemi for many reasons.
As you noted it has been revised and has a great record in police use.
Seems pretty frugal in big vehicles and is easy to service.
I wonder when the eTorque system will show up in these models.
Police uses HEMI more then V6. In CO all state patrol and police cars that are coming from Dodge are using HEMI (partly due to the fact that altitude affects power).
I can buy that model from a dealer here. But here in the small towns it's always the V6
But I do know what you are saying- no argument there
I have a 14 Durango Limited V6. I have 60k on it. Its been trouble free, never been back to dealer. Just oil changes and 1 set of tires. The V6 is plenty for the Durango, and mine is heavy with almost all options. I have tow package and tow 3500lbs quite easily. I havent towed any heavier and probably never will since I also have a pickup. Average about 20mpg mixed, 24 hwy.
We chose it because it has more room than any of its competition (at least in 2014 when we bought it). The highlander 2nd row had more room but its 3rd row was useless. I can sit very comfy in 2rd row of Durango, and fit good in 3rd row. Im 6' 265lbs.
We've owned many Dodge trucks over the years and never had any major problems. And to be honest, I wanted the Highlander to be a better deal. But in the end, the Durango was by far the best deal in 3 row SUV's for us. Price and practicality.
In June I bought a new pickup. Again, IMO the Ram was probably the best deal, price and practicality wise, but I ended up buying a Ford just because I wanted something different. No regrets, but I really believe I would have been happy either way. Though my Ford has developed a rattle that is annoying the heck out of me. I think its the pano sunroof.
We chose it because it has more room than any of its competition (at least in 2014 when we bought it). The highlander 2nd row had more room but its 3rd row was useless. I can sit very comfy in 2rd row of Durango, and fit good in 3rd row. Im 6' 265lbs.
We've owned many Dodge trucks over the years and never had any major problems. And to be honest, I wanted the Highlander to be a better deal. But in the end, the Durango was by far the best deal in 3 row SUV's for us. Price and practicality.
In June I bought a new pickup. Again, IMO the Ram was probably the best deal, price and practicality wise, but I ended up buying a Ford just because I wanted something different. No regrets, but I really believe I would have been happy either way. Though my Ford has developed a rattle that is annoying the heck out of me. I think its the pano sunroof.
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Originally Posted by Srt20
I have a 14 Durango Limited V6. I have 60k on it. Its been trouble free, never been back to dealer. Just oil changes and 1 set of tires. The V6 is plenty for the Durango, and mine is heavy with almost all options. I have tow package and tow 3500lbs quite easily. I havent towed any heavier and probably never will since I also have a pickup. Average about 20mpg mixed, 24 hwy.
We chose it because it has more room than any of its competition (at least in 2014 when we bought it). The highlander 2nd row had more room but its 3rd row was useless. I can sit very comfy in 2rd row of Durango, and fit good in 3rd row. Im 6' 265lbs.
We've owned many Dodge trucks over the years and never had any major problems. And to be honest, I wanted the Highlander to be a better deal. But in the end, the Durango was by far the best deal in 3 row SUV's for us. Price and practicality.
In June I bought a new pickup. Again, IMO the Ram was probably the best deal, price and practicality wise, but I ended up buying a Ford just because I wanted something different. No regrets, but I really believe I would have been happy either way. Though my Ford has developed a rattle that is annoying the heck out of me. I think its the pano sunroof.
You should hear my Toyota Sienna how it rattles. I still cannot figure out how these Toyota's maintain such value. My wife's Tiguan is build like a tank compared to Sienna. Funny thing is when I owned BMW X5 I thought Tiguan was poorly assembled.
I have a 14 Durango Limited V6. I have 60k on it. Its been trouble free, never been back to dealer. Just oil changes and 1 set of tires. The V6 is plenty for the Durango, and mine is heavy with almost all options. I have tow package and tow 3500lbs quite easily. I havent towed any heavier and probably never will since I also have a pickup. Average about 20mpg mixed, 24 hwy.
We chose it because it has more room than any of its competition (at least in 2014 when we bought it). The highlander 2nd row had more room but its 3rd row was useless. I can sit very comfy in 2rd row of Durango, and fit good in 3rd row. Im 6' 265lbs.
We've owned many Dodge trucks over the years and never had any major problems. And to be honest, I wanted the Highlander to be a better deal. But in the end, the Durango was by far the best deal in 3 row SUV's for us. Price and practicality.
In June I bought a new pickup. Again, IMO the Ram was probably the best deal, price and practicality wise, but I ended up buying a Ford just because I wanted something different. No regrets, but I really believe I would have been happy either way. Though my Ford has developed a rattle that is annoying the heck out of me. I think its the pano sunroof.
You should hear my Toyota Sienna how it rattles. I still cannot figure out how these Toyota's maintain such value. My wife's Tiguan is build like a tank compared to Sienna. Funny thing is when I owned BMW X5 I thought Tiguan was poorly assembled.
Originally Posted by Zee09
Good to know. The price needs to be about $5k less on a mid range trim and I think in the USA
It would take over. It's truck like, a good towing vehicle, and has good mpg's
I prefer the truck look over the current egg trend.
It seems that up here, if you happen to look at used SUV prices of something that's a "real" SUV, and I'm thinking of Blazer up to Trailbazer (even Tahoe) or Explorer up to Expedition, the Durangos go for decent money, and are just difficult to find right now. A Cherokee or Grand Cherokee is much more readily available on the used market here and at good prices.
Good to know. The price needs to be about $5k less on a mid range trim and I think in the USA
It would take over. It's truck like, a good towing vehicle, and has good mpg's
I prefer the truck look over the current egg trend.
It seems that up here, if you happen to look at used SUV prices of something that's a "real" SUV, and I'm thinking of Blazer up to Trailbazer (even Tahoe) or Explorer up to Expedition, the Durangos go for decent money, and are just difficult to find right now. A Cherokee or Grand Cherokee is much more readily available on the used market here and at good prices.
Originally Posted by Throt
FCA = Junk.
Have never and will never buy anything made by them.
If I were in the market for an SUV of that size, I'd be far more inclined to look at the Pilot or CX-9 or Tahoe or Traverse or Yukon or Sante Fe or pretty much anything but the Durango.
And if I was looking for a mini-van (
) I would look no further than the Odyssey.
Coming from the guy who owns a Hyundai LOL. I've had very good service from Chrysler products as far as mechanical reliability goes, but with anything, there are some inherent issues with some of their products. Doesn't mean the whole lineup is junk. For example, the new Dart had transmission issues with the dual clutch trans, some minivans tad trans issues, head issues when the Pentastar first came out but they made good on them.
FCA = Junk.
Have never and will never buy anything made by them.
If I were in the market for an SUV of that size, I'd be far more inclined to look at the Pilot or CX-9 or Tahoe or Traverse or Yukon or Sante Fe or pretty much anything but the Durango.
And if I was looking for a mini-van (
Coming from the guy who owns a Hyundai LOL. I've had very good service from Chrysler products as far as mechanical reliability goes, but with anything, there are some inherent issues with some of their products. Doesn't mean the whole lineup is junk. For example, the new Dart had transmission issues with the dual clutch trans, some minivans tad trans issues, head issues when the Pentastar first came out but they made good on them.
I have a 3.6 L 13 Durango that was purchased new. 98k miles. It has been trouble free and gets 25 mpg on the highway. Has factory trailer tow package and has pulled a 2000 lb trailer about 20,000 miles. Long term reliability is largely a function of good maintenance. I have done transmission flush, brake fluid flush, coolant flush and serviced the diff. Oil changes every 5k with Pennzoil synthetic and oil is still full at 5k, never used a drop.Still on original brake pads. Spark plugs are next on the schedule. My plan is to replace it at 200k. Bottom line, I see no reason not to buy a Durango.
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Originally Posted by edyvw
You should hear my Toyota Sienna how it rattles. I still cannot figure out how these Toyota's maintain such value. My wife's Tiguan is build like a tank compared to Sienna. Funny thing is when I owned BMW X5 I thought Tiguan was poorly assembled.
You ever see my Sienna rental review? Good Lord...
You should hear my Toyota Sienna how it rattles. I still cannot figure out how these Toyota's maintain such value. My wife's Tiguan is build like a tank compared to Sienna. Funny thing is when I owned BMW X5 I thought Tiguan was poorly assembled.
You ever see my Sienna rental review? Good Lord...
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Originally Posted by MotoGuzzi
I have a 3.6 L 13 Durango that was purchased new. 98k miles. It has been trouble free and gets 25 mpg on the highway. Has factory trailer tow package and has pulled a 2000 lb trailer about 20,000 miles. Long term reliability is largely a function of good maintenance. I have done transmission flush, brake fluid flush, coolant flush and serviced the diff. Oil changes every 5k with Pennzoil synthetic and oil is still full at 5k, never used a drop.Still on original brake pads. Spark plugs are next on the schedule. My plan is to replace it at 200k. Bottom line, I see no reason not to buy a Durango.
How many miles per trans flush? Thanks!
I have a 3.6 L 13 Durango that was purchased new. 98k miles. It has been trouble free and gets 25 mpg on the highway. Has factory trailer tow package and has pulled a 2000 lb trailer about 20,000 miles. Long term reliability is largely a function of good maintenance. I have done transmission flush, brake fluid flush, coolant flush and serviced the diff. Oil changes every 5k with Pennzoil synthetic and oil is still full at 5k, never used a drop.Still on original brake pads. Spark plugs are next on the schedule. My plan is to replace it at 200k. Bottom line, I see no reason not to buy a Durango.
How many miles per trans flush? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by edyvw
You should hear my Toyota Sienna how it rattles. I still cannot figure out how these Toyota's maintain such value. My wife's Tiguan is build like a tank compared to Sienna. Funny thing is when I owned BMW X5 I thought Tiguan was poorly assembled.
You ever see my Sienna rental review? Good Lord...
How about a link
Originally Posted by edyvw
You should hear my Toyota Sienna how it rattles. I still cannot figure out how these Toyota's maintain such value. My wife's Tiguan is build like a tank compared to Sienna. Funny thing is when I owned BMW X5 I thought Tiguan was poorly assembled.
You ever see my Sienna rental review? Good Lord...
How about a link
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Originally Posted by Zee09
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by edyvw
You should hear my Toyota Sienna how it rattles. I still cannot figure out how these Toyota's maintain such value. My wife's Tiguan is build like a tank compared to Sienna. Funny thing is when I owned BMW X5 I thought Tiguan was poorly assembled.
You ever see my Sienna rental review? Good Lord...
How about a link
Sure:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4465215/Toyota_Sienna_Rental_Review
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by edyvw
You should hear my Toyota Sienna how it rattles. I still cannot figure out how these Toyota's maintain such value. My wife's Tiguan is build like a tank compared to Sienna. Funny thing is when I owned BMW X5 I thought Tiguan was poorly assembled.
You ever see my Sienna rental review? Good Lord...
How about a link
Sure:
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4465215/Toyota_Sienna_Rental_Review
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Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by edyvw
You should hear my Toyota Sienna how it rattles. I still cannot figure out how these Toyota's maintain such value. My wife's Tiguan is build like a tank compared to Sienna. Funny thing is when I owned BMW X5 I thought Tiguan was poorly assembled.
You ever see my Sienna rental review? Good Lord...
Believe it or not, drives better than Highlander.
When someone asks me how is car, I answer: it is practical. When they ask me how it drives, I just answer: it is practical. It is practical. Let's not get into fundamentals.
Originally Posted by edyvw
You should hear my Toyota Sienna how it rattles. I still cannot figure out how these Toyota's maintain such value. My wife's Tiguan is build like a tank compared to Sienna. Funny thing is when I owned BMW X5 I thought Tiguan was poorly assembled.
You ever see my Sienna rental review? Good Lord...
Believe it or not, drives better than Highlander.
When someone asks me how is car, I answer: it is practical. When they ask me how it drives, I just answer: it is practical. It is practical. Let's not get into fundamentals.
I would argue that Chrysler owns the Minivan market. Look at the units sold year after year here:
Dodge Caravan Sales numbers:
http://fcauthority.com/fiat-chrysle...les-numbers/dodge-caravan-sales-numbers/
Chrysler Pacfica Sales Numbers:
http://fcauthority.com/fiat-chrysle...numbers/chrysler-pacifica-sales-numbers/
Dodge Caravan Sales numbers:
http://fcauthority.com/fiat-chrysle...les-numbers/dodge-caravan-sales-numbers/
Chrysler Pacfica Sales Numbers:
http://fcauthority.com/fiat-chrysle...numbers/chrysler-pacifica-sales-numbers/
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Originally Posted by StevieC
I would argue that Chrysler owns the Minivan market. Look at the units sold year after year here:
Dodge Caravan Sales numbers:
http://fcauthority.com/fiat-chrysle...les-numbers/dodge-caravan-sales-numbers/
Chrysler Pacfica Sales Numbers:
http://fcauthority.com/fiat-chrysle...numbers/chrysler-pacifica-sales-numbers/
They do bcs Dodge Caravan is king of rentals.
For me personally SIenna was immediate choice once I realized minivan would serve us best due to AWD option. Also, rented Caravan numerous times, and IMO platform Caravan rides on is not on par Toyota or Honda. Reason why Durango is such stout vehicle is first and foremost Mercedes platform and ZF transmission. HEMI is nice addition to it bcs of simplicity and good overall reliability.
I would argue that Chrysler owns the Minivan market. Look at the units sold year after year here:
Dodge Caravan Sales numbers:
http://fcauthority.com/fiat-chrysle...les-numbers/dodge-caravan-sales-numbers/
Chrysler Pacfica Sales Numbers:
http://fcauthority.com/fiat-chrysle...numbers/chrysler-pacifica-sales-numbers/
They do bcs Dodge Caravan is king of rentals.
For me personally SIenna was immediate choice once I realized minivan would serve us best due to AWD option. Also, rented Caravan numerous times, and IMO platform Caravan rides on is not on par Toyota or Honda. Reason why Durango is such stout vehicle is first and foremost Mercedes platform and ZF transmission. HEMI is nice addition to it bcs of simplicity and good overall reliability.
The platform is more than on par with Toyota and Honda, the difference is that different trims use different suspension setups and have different levels of sound insulation.
This makes it hard to compare to other minivans. You have standard, touring and sport setups.
The upper trims with touring and sport suspension and the upgraded sound insulation ride quite nicely. My Crew trim is actually smoother and quieter than the Odyssey I compared it to.
This makes it hard to compare to other minivans. You have standard, touring and sport setups.
The upper trims with touring and sport suspension and the upgraded sound insulation ride quite nicely. My Crew trim is actually smoother and quieter than the Odyssey I compared it to.
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