Do you handle change well? How much change has our current generations REALLY been exposed to?

JeffKeryk said:
It is at least possible that AI is the closest thing to the Manhatten Project since the Manhatten Project.
We have no choice.
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As of now, AI is little more than a meta search engine, relying upon scraping the work of others.
I can't see where the "I" part is remotely true, although that may change with further development.
I don't think you can compare it to the development of nuclear weapons, but it's early days yet and you may have a point.
I'll note that your views are influenced by your career experience, as are all of our views.
 
To know that change is worthwhile - there must be some discomfort - otherwise that was just a tweak. And along with meaningful change - comes a proper roll out - you can either do that part or seek that part - but, do it right.
Create clarity along the way - explain the evolution to younger folks.
 
4WD said:
To know that change is worthwhile - there must be some discomfort - otherwise that was just a tweak. And along with meaningful change - comes a proper roll out - you can either do that part or seek that part - but, do it right.
Create clarity along the way - explain the evolution to younger folks.
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Yes, but you kinda contradicted yourself.
True change is painful; there is no easy way or right way.

Winners and losers, just like Capitalism.
 
JeffKeryk said:
Yes, but you kinda contradicted yourself.
True change is painful; there is no easy way or right way.

Winners and losers, just like Capitalism.
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Change is painful for those displaced by it but is a benefit to everyone else.
The town farrier cannot have been happy to have seen farm families rolling up in their new Model T, but the advent of a tough, reliable and affordable car was a boon for rural people.
The railroads cannot have been happy to have seen the advent of fast airline service to everywhere of any significance, but for travelers it was a boon.
Intermediaries of all sorts, from travel agents to stockbrokers to neighborhood stores cannot have been happy to see the delopment of e-commerce, but to all of us it was a boon.
Winners and losers, as you say.
 
fdcg27 said:
As of now, AI is little more than a meta search engine, relying upon scraping the work of others.
I can't see where the "I" part is remotely true, although that may change with further development.
I don't think you can compare it to the development of nuclear weapons, but it's early days yet and you may have a point.
I'll note that your views are influenced by your career experience, as are all of our views.
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I disagree AI is little more than a meta search engine. While AI is in its infancy it is real and in use and is already a change agent.
But yes absolutely my views are heavily influenced by my career experience.

Sure Artificial Intelligence research is filled with dramatic forecasts. This is mine...

IMO, AI, especially generative AI, is not an incremental improvement but a foundational change affecting every aspect of our lives.
Progress and change do not occur on a straight line; there are always bumps along the road.

I believe AI will change industries so profoundly that the "rules" must be rewritten.
There will be pain. Go big or go home.

That's my 2 cents.
 
My life has been nothing but change, and I'd say Ive handled it well.

I've managed through every tech change in the TV/film business outside of black and white to color.
Analog- digital -tape - non linear

Just a sample of adversity and challenge I've successfully managed through are

Multiple recessions
A 2 week long Riot that burned my company to the ground
Armed confrontations
Multiple Earthquakes
Fires
Tornados
Hurricanes
Tsunamis
Floods
Snowstorms
Deaths
Thefts
Trade wars
Pandemics
Divorce
Embezzlement
Global parts shortages

I am tired, but unbroken.
 
The thing I wonder about in regards to the AI development is the fact that we MAY not be so sure what our enemies are up to in regards to AI , past, presently or their future plans. As well as any other new technology.
It is pretty hard to accept and admit something about the latest new technology. North America always seems to keep having to play catch up to other countries. What could China, Russia, North Korea etc.... be up to in regards to AI? We can be sure the very FIRST things they wanted to know about this new AI stuff is HOW and WHERE we exploit it for any new deadly military purposes. Ugh.
 
UncleDave said:
My life has been nothing but change, and I'd say Ive handled it well.

I've managed through every tech change in the TV/film business outside of black and white to color.
Analog- digital -tape - non linear

Just a sample of adversity and challenge I've successfully managed through are

Multiple recessions
A 2 week long Riot that burned my company to the ground
Armed confrontations
Multiple Earthquakes
Fires
Tornados
Hurricanes
Tsunamis
Floods
Snowstorms
Deaths
Thefts
Trade wars
Pandemics
Divorce
Embezzlement
Global parts shortages

I am tired, but unbroken.
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One word for you. You earned it for sure. SURVIVOR!
 
There has been nothing good about some of the changes we have had. Everything is crazy priced now for one.
It takes longer for fancy electronics to start up than it did for the old vacuum tube devices of the 50's and 60's.
In some areas crime is out of control.
And most importantly our phone system in the old days of Maa Bell was almost perfect, without all the dropped calls and issues we have now.
All this computer and digital dependency has done for us is to make it so easy to have all our data etc. stolen, hacked or what ever.
We were way better off with out it all back in the day. All Boeing employees had their Social Security numbers proudly displayed on their company badges for everyone to see. Just try that now.
Even not too long ago everyone was more honest and friendly, company's/ stores etc. cared and catered to their customers.
You'd make a phone call and got a human right away as they answered the phone not some badly programmed machine. Now it takes many tries to get a person to talk to, as the AI or what ever the answering system is, does not or is not programed to understand other simple words.
Sure there are some things that have drastically improved in the manufacturing areas, but we more than pay for all those fancy machines and robots when we purchase things made by them. The whole pay structure of the mid to late 50's was way better than now, just figure the ratios of wage vs a home or car back then as to compared to now, and all the stuff was hand made more so than now, sure some automation even in the 50's. Just way better and easier to live in those days.
5 cent or so candy bars compared to the same 2 dollar or more ones on the Safeway store shelf near check out.
Sorry but I'd really like the real change that some believe will happen. (y)
 
Exhaustgases said:
There has been nothing good about some of the changes we have had. Everything is crazy priced now for one.
It takes longer for fancy electronics to start up than it did for the old vacuum tube devices of the 50's and 60's.
In some areas crime is out of control.
And most importantly our phone system in the old days of Maa Bell was almost perfect, without all the dropped calls and issues we have now.
All this computer and digital dependency has done for us is to make it so easy to have all our data etc. stolen, hacked or what ever.
We were way better off with out it all back in the day. All Boeing employees had their Social Security numbers proudly displayed on their company badges for everyone to see. Just try that now.
Even not too long ago everyone was more honest and friendly, company's/ stores etc. cared and catered to their customers.
You'd make a phone call and got a human right away as they answered the phone not some badly programmed machine. Now it takes many tries to get a person to talk to, as the AI or what ever the answering system is, does not or is not programed to understand other simple words.
Sure there are some things that have drastically improved in the manufacturing areas, but we more than pay for all those fancy machines and robots when we purchase things made by them. The whole pay structure of the mid to late 50's was way better than now, just figure the ratios of wage vs a home or car back then as to compared to now, and all the stuff was hand made more so than now, sure some automation even in the 50's. Just way better and easier to live in those days.
5 cent or so candy bars compared to the same 2 dollar or more ones on the Safeway store shelf near check out.
Sorry but I'd really like the real change that some believe will happen. (y)
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I see your point. While I don't agree with all of it, there is no denying much of it.
AI will accelerate job loss; there will not be enough jobs for people to do. That will be a problem we have to deal with.

Progress, change and Capitalism... Winners and losers.
 
Small changes are ok. I'm 59 and can handle those. Technology is my kryptonite. Hands down. Sometimes takes me longer to figure out how to re-set the oil life than the oil change. A.I. is taking over everything, don't like that either. Hard to teach old dogs new tricks. Even went back to a flip phone. Could not take the constant dinging of the I-phone anymore.
 
50yr Street Mech said:
Small changes are ok. I'm 59 and can handle those. Technology is my kryptonite. Hands down. Sometimes takes me longer to figure out how to re-set the oil life than the oil change. A.I. is taking over everything, don't like that either. Hard to teach old dogs new tricks. Even went back to a flip phone. Could not take the constant dinging of the I-phone anymore.
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Flip phone for me too... I am 72...
 
Changes happen a lot today, much faster than in the old days.

People are actually more connected but not to people near them. Many stay in touch via cell phones messages social medias and others find people they like online instead of forced to deal with people they are surrounding with (like you are on BITOG).

Not all changes are good though, but some are definitely for the better. We don't have to drive around to look for things wasting time and gas, many things can be done online instead of having to stop by everywhere for errant, no more excuses for "this does not belong here you have to buy this instead of that" nonsense. I do think income are harder to survive on however but this has more to do with us getting out of the post WW2 boom (in the US) than anything else on earth IMO, nobody can expect a post war boom to last forever.

I do have high hope for my kids in their future, but they better not waste their lives dropping out of school early and expect to survive on being a housewife, or just goof off in social study major and expect to work as an office admin till retirement. Those days stop at my generation and their competition would be more severe. They better spend their summer taking classes and graduate sooner. Summer jobs won't save them more than getting your degree sooner than delaying graduation.

They will be having better lives due to all the automations and AI, but they also could be replaced by AI if they just want to goof off in life.
 
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