Dino with best cold starting properties?

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Originally Posted By: sir1900
Originally Posted By: wymi516
Do the basic Purolator filters have a silicone ADBV?


Nope. The PC have nitrile ADBV. P1 uses silicone ADBV.


Maybe a Motorcraft will work on his car.
 
Originally Posted By: chevys10
QS green bottle is $2.50 a quart at Menards right now.


My dealer uses that for my Toyota Care free changes. It is fine.
 
Originally Posted By: wymi516
Originally Posted By: sir1900
Originally Posted By: wymi516
Do the basic Purolator filters have a silicone ADBV?


Nope. The PC have nitrile ADBV. P1 uses silicone ADBV.


What do the P1's go for?


It's been a while since I bought a P1. IIRC I think they're around $6 @ Kmart.
 
Live in Boston. $25.00 Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0w30 + $11.00 Mobil 1 filter twice yearly..$72.00, no cold start worries, money saved, time saved. I'm surprised he won't budge with syn
 
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I'm not a Mobil fan generally but this scenario has Mobil Super written all over it. Fairly high VI, good cold flow, a syn blend no less and it'll still come in at his $20 budget.

The other alternative would be Quaker State Conventional which is what his Hyundai dealer has probably been using anyway, but the Mobil has superior cold flow properties IMO.
 
Originally Posted By: Thax
yep steveh , Mobil Super 5000 would be a good choice for this budget. Great Conventional oil for the money . A fellow bitoger on here runs his Mobil Super 5000 to 8k+ mile oci's and his truck is doing just fine.

That would be me...
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A PureOne filter should be about $7 and Mobil Super 5000 at Walmart is about $13 for a 5QT jug. After tax, it will be a little over his $20 limit, so I would use a Purolator Classic which is usually less than $4 and then he could hit his target. I have two Hyundai's (one uses the same filter as his and the other is a cartridge filter). I have dissected the canister Hyundai OEM filter--nothing special there; save the $$ and go for a Purolator Classic (or a Motorcraft) and he will be all set.
 
Watch for a P1 sale at Advance Auto and you can knock that cost per filter under $5.
As someone stated early in the thread, just about any good 5w20 will work.
 
So he presently changes his oil every 4000 miles. Three times a year. Do whatever you have to do to meet his $20 objective this time.
Then wet his beak with some Free After Rebate synthetic. Since it's usually available at least twice a year.
Tell him that changing his oil 3 times, with dino, in 12,000 miles causes more wear than changing it 2 times, with synthetic, in 12,000 miles.
Change the filter once a year when you get on the synthetic.

So ultimately 1 filter at $7.00. Synthetic oil for the cost of tax and stamps at less than $5.00. Better cold starting. Better protection. For $12.00 a year.
 
To the OP: Quaker State Advanced Durability = Quaker State Conventional

The Mobil Super 5000 is also a good suggestion for the price. The OP says his neighbor has a small stash of OEM filters already so using a PC or a P1 isn't an option at this time.
 
Originally Posted By: coolbird101
sell him your used synthetic for a dollar a quart, geez your neighbor wont get off 20.00 for an oil change that only needs doing twice a year, 20.00 wont even buy him a half tank of gas.


That comment make very little sense. What benefit would using synthetic bring to this guy's neighbor? If you can bring some data to the table not internet propaganda I would entrain your argument.
 
Originally Posted By: Art_Vandelay
So he presently changes his oil every 4000 miles. Three times a year. Do whatever you have to do to meet his $20 objective this time.
Then wet his beak with some Free After Rebate synthetic. Since it's usually available at least twice a year.
Tell him that changing his oil 3 times, with dino, in 12,000 miles causes more wear than changing it 2 times, with synthetic, in 12,000 miles.
Change the filter once a year when you get on the synthetic.

So ultimately 1 filter at $7.00. Synthetic oil for the cost of tax and stamps at less than $5.00. Better cold starting. Better protection. For $12.00 a year.


If I was in your situation I would just recommend twice a year oil changes on conventional. I already use conventional oils for 7K OCI's.
 
Thanks everybody. Yes, he's doing 3 changes a year to keep his 100k mile power train warranty intact. So it looks like the Mobil Super might be the way to go. I'm going to take him oil shopping this weekend.
 
First, check out this section and see if there are any deals posted that you can get in your area.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=33&page=1

Otherwise, just go to Walmart. You can get 5 quart jugs of Supertech for ~$12, Mobil Super 5000 for ~$13, or Valvoline Conventional, Pennzoil Conventional, Quaker State Conventional, Castrol GTX, etc for ~$15. These are all good oils that are easily good for a 5000 mile OCI and you can get any of them plus a Purolator or Motorcraft filter for your $20 budget.
 
Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
First, check out this section and see if there are any deals posted that you can get in your area.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=33&page=1

Otherwise, just go to Walmart. You can get 5 quart jugs of Supertech for ~$12, Mobil Super 5000 for ~$13, or Valvoline Conventional, Pennzoil Conventional, Quaker State Conventional, Castrol GTX, etc for ~$15. These are all good oils that are easily good for a 5000 mile OCI and you can get any of them plus a Purolator or Motorcraft filter for your $20 budget.


The Mobil Super 5000 at $13.00 is looking like the oil to go with. That along with the $7.00 OE filter puts him right at the amount he was looking to pay.
 
Originally Posted By: sir1900
To the OP: Quaker State Advanced Durability = Quaker State Conventional

The Mobil Super 5000 is also a good suggestion for the price. The OP says his neighbor has a small stash of OEM filters already so using a PC or a P1 isn't an option at this time.


Plus there's a good chance his Hyundai is one of the cartridge filter vehicles so the other cheap options like Classics may not even be on the table.

Get the Mobil Super 5000 you'll be good. Remember nobody was running 5w20 20 years ago ANY 5w20 should start well in winter.
 
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
Originally Posted By: sir1900
To the OP: Quaker State Advanced Durability = Quaker State Conventional

The Mobil Super 5000 is also a good suggestion for the price. The OP says his neighbor has a small stash of OEM filters already so using a PC or a P1 isn't an option at this time.


Plus there's a good chance his Hyundai is one of the cartridge filter vehicles so the other cheap options like Classics may not even be on the table.

Get the Mobil Super 5000 you'll be good. Remember nobody was running 5w20 20 years ago ANY 5w20 should start well in winter.


It's a regular screw on filter, $6.70 from the local Hyundai dealer. Both my cars use the same filter, it's also got the silicone ADBV.
 
I use mobil super 5000 on my toyota camry and honda pilot. very good oil. it is cheap too. you can buy at walmart for $13.97
 
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