Dealer wrong?

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In July of 2012 the wife bought a 2012 Mazda 3 Gt. It has been a great car. She put 67,000 miles on it and never needed a repair. The dealer is about 40 miles away. We've been buying the package deal for the oil changes (mazda full synthetic, changed every 5000-7500 miles, 4 for a special price). The car is too low for me to get under and I don't trust ramps and jack stands, and the way she puts on miles we figured we'd establish a relationship with the dealer in anticipation of the next purchase. THey are also a Jeep dealer and my Wrangler is heading to 200K and we were thinking of maybe upgrading.
In conversations with other potential purchasers we have talked up the Mazda and this dealer. We will definately consider another Mazda in the future.
Unfortunately, the wife totalled the car. We walked away with $5100 from Geico and figured we'd pick up a cheaper car for cash while we waited to see what Mazda was coming out with for the 2016's.
Realizing we had a few changes left on the oil change plan, she called the dealer and asked if she could get a partial refund (didn't really expect that) of if we could use the changes on the other car. They refused. Too bad, so sad, nice knowing you.
THe Crown Vic and the Wrangler use regular conventional oil, a basic filter, and although six quarts it would be cheaper than the Mazda oil change. Or we would pay the difference.
I can change the oil myself for about $25, and the time wasted and cost of driving 80 miles round trip doesn't add up so I am not losing much. It just amazes me that a dealer will lose a relationship over something that petty.
 
You should inform the owner of the dealership that they lost a customer by such petty details. I bet they wont be happy and may make it worth your time.
 
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
They should have let you use the balance of changes for your other vehicles. Jerks.


I don't doubt that they would not give a refund on discounted OC, but they should at least grant those that were pre-paid on another of your vehicles.

I think I would work my way up the food chain and involve the management of the dealership and explain that you are looking to purchase another vehicle from them and give your perspective as you did in the post. I have found that that opens doors.
 
Originally Posted By: wemay
All depends on the Terms & Conditions...


yea do you have one handy? What doe sit say exactly? Does it even list a car or vin number? If not then try and use, worse case give them away at the dealer to others and tell them your story.
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Originally Posted By: abycat
They only gave you 5k for that car. That's a bit low in my opinion. as for the dealer I would never go back there again.


I'm guessing that is what they walked away with after the loan was paid off.

I wouldn't expect to be refunded a partial refund on a discounted package of oil changes, but I would expect to be able to use them on my other vehicles.
 
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
They should have let you use the balance of changes for your other vehicles. Jerks.


Disagree. Different oil, different amount of oil, different filter.
 
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
They should have let you use the balance of changes for your other vehicles. Jerks.


Disagree. Different oil, different amount of oil, different filter.


still not justification for no, nada, zip consideration. When you have an opportunity to build good will with a customer that really doesn't cost you anything - take it.
 
Service is a different profit center from sales. Pretty myopic of the service manager, and I am betting that bringing this to the attention of the GM will at least get the oil changes transferred.
 
Originally Posted By: wemay
All depends on the Terms & Conditions...


Agreed. While it does seem to be a lousy move on their part, if it was written into the terms, and they can cite it, then... Caveat emptor

If they cannot cite it from the T&Cs, then escalate and see even if a CC charge back or other things can be done.
 
your saying your 2012 mazda 3 only netted you $5100 from geico? was that before paying it off? its worth double that.
 
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Originally Posted By: Burt
Originally Posted By: BMWTurboDzl
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
They should have let you use the balance of changes for your other vehicles. Jerks.


Disagree. Different oil, different amount of oil, different filter.


still not justification for no, nada, zip consideration. When you have an opportunity to build good will with a customer that really doesn't cost you anything - take it.


+1. If a dealer is doing that kind of a deal, it usually is a loss leader to get people in the door and create a business relationship. Way to undo a business relationship for what appeared to be a happy customer. Some shortsighted thinking there.
 
The oil change deal is so they get a shot at your car for additional service work every time you come in. Their mindset is to make a dollar today, right now. They have no interest in seeing a type or brand of vehicle they don't service. When they look at the oil change deal they are looking at the additional work it generates. The cost of some oil and a few filters is of no consideration. They use bulk oil and buy the same filters by the pallet. They sure don't want to service a car where someone has to figure out how much oil to use and find one oil filter somewhere.

The only important question to ask, is your wife okay?

If you purchase another new car some day soon, purchase it because it's the car you want. Realize the dealer is not your "friend" and maybe consider having a local real mechanic change your oil, not the dealer and not a fast lube place. The extra few bucks might be worth the investment. And this local mechanic might become your friend.
 
Seems myopic to not offer you something, but as said, buyer beware.

I recently declined "free" state inspection, and paid the $50 out of pocket at a local shop. The last service I had at the dealer they stripped out a lug nut, then put in a faulty one. Not going to wait around for more "free" work at that rate. Not when state inspection requires two wheels to come off!

I prepaid for service on my Camry in high hopes of my wife taking the car in. Didn't happen. Came to the conclusion I paid for a lot of... nothing. Wasn't convient, and certainly wasn't cheap.
 
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: abycat
They only gave you 5k for that car. That's a bit low in my opinion. as for the dealer I would never go back there again.


I'm guessing that is what they walked away with after the loan was paid off.

I wouldn't expect to be refunded a partial refund on a discounted package of oil changes, but I would expect to be able to use them on my other vehicles.


Oh good point.
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If the car was sold instead of wrecked, would you demand a refund/transfer of the oil change plan? I don't think so.

You can't foresee things like a wreck, but neither can the dealer. They COULD have gone the extra mile, but they are most likely within their rights. I don't know if it is worth walking away from a dealership you have had a good experience with in the past.
 
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