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I have a 2012 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium with CVT. It's a non-turbo. 20,700 miles.

Today went in for my yearly NY safety inspection. Emissions isn't needed the first two years. I had Royal Purple 5w30 with a RP filter in it. 4500 miles on the oil and filter. I've been running 7500 mile intervals as per the warranty requirements. The sticker was put as 3000 miles when I had the oil done, even though I run it 7500 miles.

Got a call from the dealer, went to my voicemail since phone was on silent. They asked if I wanted an oil change done since it was past due as per the sticker.

An hour later, on my lunch break, I noticed a call from them. Called the dealer and said "no, I have synthetic in there, leave it". The service advisor (SA) said, "uhhh, oooo-kay" and I knew by the tone of his voice that they did an oil change. He called back 5 minutes later saying the oil was already changed but he wouldn't charge me. He said it was regular oil, not synthetic. I said I gave no permission to change it and that I spent good money on the Royal Purple synthetic that was in there that I've been running in 7500 mile intervals. He said he'll have them drain it and put the Subaru Synthetic in there. Still [censored] off, I said ok.

I get to the dealer and the invoice says "0w20 Synthetic". I said to the SA, "My manual states only 5w30 conventional or synthetic is supposed to be in there." He said it's fine and pulled out a chart showing "Subaru only uses 0w20 synthetic on vehicles that requires them, yours doesn't even require it, so it's fine". I got the manual and said "it says only 5w30 is to be used in either conventional or synthetic". He got the tech who did the stuff (I find it odd, or a lie, that an A tech would do a state inspection, ECU upgrade for a recall, and an oil change when it's the nation's 3rd largest Subaru dealer). The tech said, "oh they billed it wrong, I really put 5w30 Synthetic in there. We have both." The SA said he can have them re-do the oil change again with me watching them put 5w30 in it if I didn't believe them. They said it is "Gulf" brand 5w30 synthetic. Is that stuff any good?

I said leave it and they gave me a coupon to have them either put synthetic in for free, or for them to put my own supplied oil in it for free. Should I do another run on their synthetic after 7500 miles and then switch back to Royal Purple or whatever I planned on using once the RP ran out (PP)? Is it safe to do a 7500 interval with this "Gulf" brand oil? What about with the Subaru filter that they used? Is 7500 ok?

What happens if there really is 0w20 in it, will it hurt? I still think there is. I'm in Upstate NY, I don't know how the lower weight oils act in the cold winters.

Your take on this?
 
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Just keep your invoice. The 0W20 is likely better performing in upstate NY in January anyways. If anything the manufacturer would slap the dealer if there any warranty issues later. Which is unlikely going to happen, I would just move on. Just good luck on removing your drain plug and filter later.
 
Your fine, its a non-turbo subaru. If it was turbo, i would be a little more anal about it.

If your skeptical (as i would be), just run the "severe interval" which i think is 3750 or 6 months. Then go back to your synthetic.
 
Has anyone ever done a UOA on this supposed 5w30 Gulf synthetic? Is it any good?
 
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The point is that the Stealer did NOT receive permission to change the oil, and did so anyway.

It was a error due to sloppiness, but I wouldn't create a [censored] over it since unless you plan to go somewhere else it isn't a great idea to have a bad relationship with them.

0w20 is just fine, and will be good for the entire 7500 miles OCI.
 
Originally Posted By: hockeyfun1
I have a 2012 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium with CVT. It's a non-turbo. 20,700 miles.

said "no, I have synthetic in there, leave it".
Your take on this?


What are the recommended OCI's in the manual?

I'd be a lil more worried of "notes" on file about "Potential for extended drain" or the likes and IF something were to happen, you could have just shot yourself in the foot.

How I am reading this, and if it happened to me... I'd treat whatever they put in there as as flush oil. Wait 500 miles and change back.
(I beat the living [censored] out of one of my vehicles on a daily basis, so I am particular about oil)
 
our shop uses gulf 5w20 semisynthetic as bulk oil. it is the cheapest oil we can get from our supplier (polsinello fuels), but that is because their owner is part owner of gulf. we've never had an issue with the oil. runs as smooth and clean as the formula shell we were using before. it is not an extended drain oil.
the 0w20 subaru stuff is better oil, and since the dealer put it in, it would not have caused any warranty issues.
 
I don't know if it's 0w20 or 5w30, but is what they claim as it being "Synthetic" a "Full Synthetic", or "Semi-synthetic/blend"?
 
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Get a refund on the entire service as payment for your RP that was thrown away and your time and trouble. They did work on your vehicle without your permission. In many states this is illegal; I don't know about NY.
 
Entire service was $10 total. That was for the state safety inspection. The recall was done for free since the car is still under warranty (and even if it wasn't, I think recalls are free anyway). Was a recall for the engine coolant sensor or something like that.
 
Originally Posted By: hockeyfun1
Entire service was $10 total. That was for the state safety inspection. The recall was done for free since the car is still under warranty (and even if it wasn't, I think recalls are free anyway). Was a recall for the engine coolant sensor or something like that.


Blast too bad it wasn't something expensive....
 
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