Dad got double vision (stroke?)

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He is 60. Grew up in China during famine, cultural revolution, etc. Finally made it to Hong Kong in his 30s and worked till the 40s, started a business and eventually sold it, and retired in the US in the 50s with my mom, and went to school for 10 years waiting for his green card.

He was a smoker since teenage, and stopped about 10 years ago. Had hepatitis in the youth (the non-STD one) so he has the antibody. He does not exercise, likes to eat meat and organs, and mom always give in to his demand after a few rounds of whining.

He had regular checkup with a local hospital in San Francisco that charge him fairly low rate (compare to other hospital). He had high triglyceride and was prescribe a medication that is bad for his liver. With the medication the triglyceride is lowered to a reasonable level, but this year the doctor said it needs to stop due to potential damage to liver, and order him to exercise. Of course, he did not, but did eat slightly healthier than before.

Last Dec they finally got their green cards, and decided to go back home (China) to visit all the relatives for 3 months after being away for 14 years. 14 years ago they though that they won't see each other again because of the difficulties in getting tourist visa to US, and the old age of a few of the relatives. While feasting away, they did all the checkup possible ever (only cost 5% of US health care, plus my aunt is a retired supervisor nurse in one of the biggest hospital). Things seems good and their health seems reasonable.

This Sep, my parents went on a 17 day tour to Europe. It was a cheap tour with bad bus, bad food, bad hotel, and really stressed them out. If you ever think about going to Europe for $3700 for 17 days, stay away, it is too good to be true. Prior to leaving Europe, dad got a hive and the doctor prescribed Hydroxyzine HCL since Clariton doesn't work.

Hydroxyzine works fine for him, but on the 12th day of the tour, he woke up and realized his vision is doubled. For the fear of complication he stopped the med immediately, and hang in there till he came back last Saturday. The double vision remains, and the visit on Mon and Tue to the doctor and an optometrist confirms that it isn't the medicine, but seems to be broken vanes inside the brain (according to dad's word, probably a minor stroke).

His vision in both eyes are fine individually, but the horizontal axis on his right eye is now 6 degree off. My search on wikipedia said it is either the eye muscle control or some nerves system got into problem, or a stroke. The problem is still here, no med is prescribed pending a CAT scan, but being uninsured, it cost $4000. He probably have to fly back to China to see if he can get this taken care of.

While not being poor, not having insurance sucks. He basically brought over all of our life saving from Hong Kong and spend it here as a full time student. Since insurance cost so much, and he got free health care back home, he didn't buy any. Now of course it is too late because of "preexist" condition. I can totally feel how frustrated this is to all of us Americans who could not afford insurance, and even those illegal aliens who ruins our health care system (despite I don't like that idea, what other choices do they have when they are sick?).


So, if you are a medical professional, please let me know what most likely this is and whether it is 1) too late to do anything or 2) must act quick or else his life/health/vision would be in danger?
 
I have no specific help for your dad. I will pray for him and your family. Your dad has seen a lot, but 60 is very young.

I will ask my wife later, she "lives" in the medical world and has many contacts.
 
Thanks Pablo. You're right, 60 is very young to have these kind of health problem, like having transmission failure at 100K is kind of premature.

I think my mom and I always give in to his desire to eat comfort food partly because of his childhood of famine, and his pessimistic outlook in life. He lost his dad when he was 7, and his mom had gambling problem; his grandma raised him and his 2 other sisters with a water metering government job. He always remind us that he had to wake up 5am and walk barefoot to do water metering with an empty stomach, therefore he deserve "a tiny bit of culinary enjoyment".

I shouldn't have let him.
 
Hope your dad is okay.

I agree not having health insurance sucks. Last summer my mom, sister, and I went back to Vietnam to visit family since she just got her green card the year prior and she hadn't seen her elderly mother for about 16 years. One segment of the trip was from Dallas Fort Worth to Tokyo which is a 13 hour flight. She slept most of the time on the plane because flying made her tired. After spending two weeks and coming back to the US she blacked out. Thankfully we were able to get her back home from Texas. A week later she had serious breathing problems and it turned out she had a blood clot in one of her legs that migrated to her lungs and became a pulmonary embolism. Luckily it was found early and she made a full recovery. Of course she spent several days in the hospital and racked up a hefty bill. She is one of those persons who takes responsibility for her actions and she wants to pay the hospital but only has a limited means but the hospital didn't like getting their money by small payments and sent the bill off to a debt collection agency.

Sorry for going off topic. And hopefully your dad's condition isn't anything too serious.
 
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Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Since insurance cost so much, and he got free health care back home, he didn't buy any.


I realize that hindsight is always 20/20, but for Pete's sake, what do you expect to happen when you don't have health insurance?

Because your father got free health care in China he didn't get health insurance after moving to the US? The logic behind this escapes me. Better to be poor with health insurance than to be not poor without health insurance. No health insurance means a high chance of financial ruin plus inadequate medical care.

As for the trips to China and Europe, who travels abroad without travel health insurance? The regular health insurance, if one has it, may not, or more likely will not provide adequate or any coverage.

I don't travel outside the US without travel health insurance. I do not have US health insurance, because it totally sucks with its pathetic coverage and low maximum limits. I have a foreign insurance that covers me anywhere in the world but in Germany. I pay around $180 a month for 100% coverage without maximum limits on hospital stays, treatment, emergency EVAC, even dental etc. When I visit Germany, I buy travel health insurance in the US to have coverage in Germany.

Good luck to your father.
 
Travel Health Insurance. Until today, that was a term I'd not heard before. Can you tell I don't travel much?

PandaBear, I hope your Dad gets better soon.
 
My dad had a stroke when he was 60, he's from the Philippines, got his citizenship serving in the Vietnam war. He's 5"10 185 lbs. skinny as a pencil in the 60's, weight listed on his military file as 145 lbs. Living the American diet got to him. nothing but donuts and coffe with lots of sugar, tons of fast food. He has hypertension, diabetes, and high cholesterol. He had weakness in his right arm, slurred speech, and a clot in his brain. That was 3.5 years ago. He didn't have health insurance problems though, he has health insurance through his retirement benefits with the U.S Government. I was a fat kid growing up, my dad always pushed food in my face. I think growing up famine had something to do with it. No health insurance is a bad situation in USA. It will ruin him financially into bankruptcy.
 
Mori,

It's not that the logic of not getting health insurance doesn't make sense. He has dual citizenship and can go back any time for treatment, of course unless it is an emergency. It is a "calculated" risk that he took.

If it is only $180 a month, then things wouldn't be that bad, but his quote is significantly higher than that (about $500 or so), and that exceeded the amount of his total expense per month (exclude housing since he own the place he lives). A round trip ticket back to China is only $1500, and he can stay with his relatives, so that is obviously a better choice compare to paying $6000 a year regardless for 10 years, when you can spend $1500 travel cost and about 5% of US health care cost as need.

I have a feeling that my folks have to go back to China to retire due to this reason. In a way it would be nice, but it probably also means I wouldn't get to see them more often than once every 2 years or so.
 
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
He has dual citizenship and can go back any time for treatment, of course unless it is an emergency.


Then that's the solution right there.
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It is a "calculated" risk that he took.


It's bad math.
 
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I pay around $180 a month for 100% coverage without maximum limits on hospital stays, treatment, emergency EVAC, even dental etc.

Can you list the company?
 
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He has dual citizenship and can go back any time for treatment,

China's medical care is not as socialized as it once was. He had better look into it more if he decides to return.
 
Originally Posted By: Tempest

Can you list the company?

The company is Axa Colonia, but it won't make a difference, because you can't get that plan. Maybe you can get a similar plan in the US and move abroad.
 
Originally Posted By: moribundman
Originally Posted By: Tempest

Can you list the company?

The company is Axa Colonia, but it won't make a difference, because you can't get that plan.

What's the secret hand shake?
 
Originally Posted By: Tempest
What's the secret hand shake?


German citizenship and living anywhere but in Germany are the prerequistes. It's a private, foreign health insurance plan for Germans living abroad.
 
No, it's private insurance. Even when I was living in Germany, I always had private insurance. It's not subsidized or paid for by government funds. I never signed up for universal health care.
 
Originally Posted By: moribundman
No, it's private insurance. Even when I was living in Germany, I always had private insurance. It's not subsidized or paid for by government funds. I never signed up for universal health care.
so it's a Deutschland für Deutsche kind of deal?
 
Does he do eye exercises ? In the last few years, getting older and with all of the computer work, my arms need to get longer and longer :^), and regular reading glasses work fine. I always try to wear the weakest ones possible, otherwise the eyes get weaker. If I don't do eye exercise my eyes will get lazy and I'll need stronger reading glasses, and I notice that my 'weak eye' will get get lazier too as the stronger eye is kind of doing all of the work. At home I use one eye then the other, and do the eye exercies, and after a long weekend of not much computer work my eyes are a lot better.

I can see how people get into a 'deconditioning spiral' even with vision, as you'll just need stronger and stronger glasses, with the weak eye finally kind of giving up.

Anyway, if everything else checks out maybe that will help.
 
Originally Posted By: 1sttruck
Does he do eye exercises ? In the last few years, getting older and with all of the computer work, my arms need to get longer and longer :^), and regular reading glasses work fine. I always try to wear the weakest ones possible, otherwise the eyes get weaker. If I don't do eye exercise my eyes will get lazy and I'll need stronger reading glasses, and I notice that my 'weak eye' will get get lazier too as the stronger eye is kind of doing all of the work. At home I use one eye then the other, and do the eye exercies, and after a long weekend of not much computer work my eyes are a lot better.

I can see how people get into a 'deconditioning spiral' even with vision, as you'll just need stronger and stronger glasses, with the weak eye finally kind of giving up.

Anyway, if everything else checks out maybe that will help.



His eyes are fine, it is the nerves inside the brain that has problem controlling eye muscle.
 
Originally Posted By: Aldaris
Originally Posted By: moribundman
No, it's private insurance. Even when I was living in Germany, I always had private insurance. It's not subsidized or paid for by government funds. I never signed up for universal health care.
so it's a Deutschland für Deutsche kind of deal?


The AXA Group is the world's largest insurer, operating in almost every country. I am sure you can find an equivalent insurance offer for US citizens living abroad. Where do you plan on living?

AXA
 
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