Cybertruck now priced starting at $75,000

It was all bait and switch vaporware designed to pump the stock. Same with the roadster. Investors and depositors should sue.
I guess that should be the deal across the whole industry then. GM and Ford have both done it too and very recently as well.
 
The Cybertrucks aren't even in the hands of the consumers yet but the hate fest is in full force. Along with speculation.
$75k is not out of line with many well optioned pickup trucks these days. How about we wait and see what real world pricing looks like along with actual owner's reports and satisfaction ?

The ultimate success and failure of the Cybertruck will be determined when a sufficient number are in the hands of consumers with a sufficient amount of time having elapsed for a fair evaluation of their performance and quality control. Not by Instagram posters or anti EV/Tesla/Elon Musk zealots pontificating from their keyboards.

And yes it is butt ugly. That doesn't seem to matter though to the over 1.2 million people who put a deposit down though does it ?
Even if more than half of them back out of their commitment, how will that compare to the number of Rivians and Ford F-150 Lightnings sold ? We'll find out. I wouldn't bet against Elon.
Hate to say it but multiple outlets and employees have leaked
"Elon Musk complains about quality issues while teasing a 'production candidate' truck"
"Musk unhappy with Cybertruck’s poor quality, calls for Lego-like precision. Musk wants SUB 10 Micron precision. "
A human hair is 70 microns sub 10 micron is
0.000394 inch. This is what happens when a bi-polar nut job runs the company. He can't make any decisions and stick with anything he says. Quit defending the guy. Sheesh. Musk has pitched and changed the specs on the Cybertruck so many times it's shocking that 3 have been built. Those seen on the semi recently were quoted by Tesla as "production testers" so not really ready. Tesla is supposed to show off a ironed out production ready cybertruck in 3 weeks and this is where they are in the build stage.
 
How about we wait and see what real world pricing looks like along with actual owner's reports and satisfaction ?

The ultimate success and failure of the Cybertruck will be determined when a sufficient number are in the hands of consumers with a sufficient amount of time having elapsed for a fair evaluation of their performance and quality control. Not by Instagram posters or anti EV/Tesla/Elon Musk zealots pontificating from their keyboards.
No. Its a rolling pile that belonged in Bladerunner the movie. Tell me an actual use case for the Cybertruck that isn’t what 99 percent of Rivian owners are doing. 1) clogging Starbucks lines 2) being keyboard commandos defending a product class (all EVs) that will be outmoded in 2-3 years when solid state batteries arrive.

It’s a brick that will depreciate like 2 bricks in a cess pool.
 
TSLA is up well over 1,000% since the truck was announced. That's better than a 10x return on your investment. Wish I had more!
Jeff,
You can't make sense many stock market actions. Look at that Vietnamese company that sold stock and now the stock is capitalized more than GM and Ford. But yea-a good return on investment.

The sharp rise now has the company's market cap at nearly $130 billion -- more than Ford and General Motors combined. Investors may have never heard of it, but it sits only behind Tesla with its valuation. It is even worth more than China-based BYD, the second-largest global EV maker.
https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/08/25/why-vinfast-auto-jumped-again-today/
 
No. Its a rolling pile that belonged in Bladerunner the movie. Tell me an actual use case for the Cybertruck that isn’t what 99 percent of Rivian owners are doing. 1) clogging Starbucks lines 2) being keyboard commandos defending a product class (all EVs) that will be outmoded in 2-3 years when solid state batteries arrive.

It’s a brick that will depreciate like 2 bricks in a cess pool.
Because people (not me) want to buy it. Tell me the actual use case for 90% of the trucks you see on the road. Most of them have never been off of pavement unless you're in a rural area that actually has some gravel roads.
 
Because people (not me) want to buy it. Tell me the actual use case for 90% of the trucks you see on the road. Most of them have never been off of pavement unless you're in a rural area that actually has some gravel roads.

I'd think most cars have seen some gravel or dirt. I've parked in dirt/gravel overflow lots. However, they were typically well graded and not terribly difficult to traverse. I'd think for most people, the utility of a CyberTruck would be that it has a pickup truck bed and not any nominal ability to go off road.

Which reminds me. Yesterday I was shopping at a large discount store and was in line with a couple of guys from Ireland going to Burning Man. I've never been but have seen people coming back as well as having been in Reno around that time and even renting a car. Taking a rental car on the playa can result in penalties for cleanup and/or damage. I remember when I rented a car, there was a prominent sign saying there would be a steep cleaning fee if any "playa dust" was found on a rental. When I saw vehicles coming back (often pickups) I'd see all sorts of equipment (including bicycles) that were absolutely covered in dust along with dust all over.
 
Did anyone really believe it would sell for 39K when the battery alone is probably close to 25K alone. Musk's folly.
Can’t you get a bare bones f150 lightning for $39k?

I suspect every next addition adds $$$ just like the big 3 pickups.
 
Here is a video from a month ago that shows some closeups. It doesn’t look even close to a $75,000 truck. The interior is spartan.

Who decided on the position of the single windshield wiper? That looks bad and it’s a hindrance to vision. Stuff like that is a head scratcher.



In the era of so many idiotic things in a cabin of a vehicle, more “spartan” isn’t a bad thing, even with a $$ truck. Trucks are all overpriced as it is anyway.

Tesla does put too many functions embedded in the ginormous tablet as well. Not a fan of that.

Single wipers have been done by Mercedes-Benz for years with no real issues whatsoever. I haven’t had issues with my mono wipers on w124/140/210 cars. This may be different/need changes but it’s not a big deal imo.

That said I doubt I’d ever consider buying that thing over a big three truck, even if EV. I’d buy a Tesla car, but not that.
 
I don't think that will be the case at all. There's still plenty of work trucks around if you look and even lightly optioned ones under $50k with the average truck still around $60k looking at my local dealer's websites. The top trims take the bragging rights since luxury is the goal at that level. We're seeing inflation rearing its ugly head and there's only so much we can do with that. The EVs are leaning more on the higher end of things and I think those trucks will trend with the luxury optioned trucks, but I think the issue with many is the profitability of EVs. It's easier to get meat on the bone and make money if it can be padded through a higher cost and making it more upmarket than to try and mass produce and attempt to sell at a lower competitive price when most are losing money on the sales as is.
It's not greed so much that led to my prediction about new pickups costing $100K in 5 years. New regulations including fuel-economy mandates will force the automakers to cut production and raise the cost of surviving ICE pickups to discourage casual buyers. Businesses and those individuals who need a pickup to haul or pull a trailer will fork out the $$$ out of necessity. Other individuals who don't really "need" a pickup will be priced out of the market deliberately. You will see the same thing with large SUVs.
 
It's not greed so much that led to my prediction about new pickups costing $100K in 5 years. New regulations including fuel-economy mandates will force the automakers to cut production and raise the cost of surviving ICE pickups to discourage casual buyers. Businesses and those individuals who need a pickup to haul or pull a trailer will fork out the $$$ out of necessity. Other individuals who don't really "need" a pickup will be priced out of the market deliberately. You will see the same thing with large SUVs.
It's too bad it would take pricing people out who don't actually have practical use of a truck to get these monstrosities off the road.
 
Lie about price -> get people to preorder -> boost Tesla stocks to make yourself look good -> fail to release product on time and on price -> lose customers -> cry until company gets bailout. This is nothing new from Musk, Roadster was supposed to be released 3 years ago.
 
Yes but if you had $75,000 to spend on a truck would it be a Cybertruk or a top trim Toyota Tundra ?

I think most would go for the Tundra.
Depends on the volume. I think if you are trying to sell 1M most would go to Tundra. However there would be enough demand for the first couple of years of Cybertruck to be sold out, and who knows what they would be building for 2nd gen if ever.

I still think a stainless steel truck is a solution looking for a problem. Unless the solution is to make the Mars rocket cost effective by making a bunch of truck.
 
Hate to say it but multiple outlets and employees have leaked
"Elon Musk complains about quality issues while teasing a 'production candidate' truck"
"Musk unhappy with Cybertruck’s poor quality, calls for Lego-like precision. Musk wants SUB 10 Micron precision. "
A human hair is 70 microns sub 10 micron is
0.000394 inch. This is what happens when a bi-polar nut job runs the company. He can't make any decisions and stick with anything he says. Quit defending the guy. Sheesh. Musk has pitched and changed the specs on the Cybertruck so many times it's shocking that 3 have been built. Those seen on the semi recently were quoted by Tesla as "production testers" so not really ready. Tesla is supposed to show off a ironed out production ready cybertruck in 3 weeks and this is where they are in the build stage.
I don't think automotive is a market needing 10 micron precision, or you are doing it wrong (heck we can't even build a car that doesn't need alignment for God's sake). I think they are trying to use precision to bandage a bad design as there would be no room to hide defects otherwise. If they change the design a bit then it would be much easier to build and won't need 10 micron precision, but it would look different.
 
Lie about price -> get people to preorder -> boost Tesla stocks to make yourself look good -> fail to release product on time and on price -> lose customers -> cry until company gets bailout. This is nothing new from Musk, Roadster was supposed to be released 3 years ago.
I'd cry more fowl on it if literally every other EV truck hadn't done the same thing. Plus I wouldn't be bothered if the truck never came available since I didn't order one.
 
I guess that should be the deal across the whole industry then. GM and Ford have both done it too and very recently as well.
To a much smaller extent. Only tesla has paper released these ultra outlandish vehicles at a low price only to never have released them and to multiply the price years later.
 
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