Cybercrime Visits Me

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Just found out today that some lowlife opened a PayPal account and a PayPal Credit account in July, using my name, address, and SS#, but not my email address. Fortunately I found out just in time to cancel 2 pending charges on the Credit account, and to close the 2 accounts.

Last year I had my credit card number stolen, and the thief used it to buy $6000 of gold. He paid the gold dealer via paypal, with my stolen number.

I hate cybercriminals.
 
A few weeks ago my friend was a victim of identity theft. Someone opened a couple of accounts in his name, and by the time he noticed, they became delinquent and were sent to a debt collector. He contacted the 3 credit bureaus to sort out the problem and put a freeze on his credit reports. I don't know if the issues have been resolved. He also had 20 'hard' credit inquiries. His fico dropped by 150 points.

It's made me contemplate pre-emptively putting a freeze on mine. Has anyone here done that?
 
Originally Posted By: SubLGT
Last year I had my credit card number stolen, and the thief used it to buy $6000 of gold. He paid the gold dealer via paypal, with my stolen number.


I bet that gold dealer hates the cybercriminal more than you do. After the transaction is nullified, the $6000 is deducted from his account. You were made whole; the dealer is out $6k worth of gold.
 
Originally Posted By: JamesBond
How did you find out?


I received a form-letter today from Paypal Credit informing me of "changes to the account agreement". Strangely, I never received any letter about the new account, or any billing statements. I immediately called Paypal support, and after 10 minutes of aggravation with the automated support robot, I was connected to a real human being.
 
Welcome to The New World Order: Global Fraud.

I got rid of all cards, except for one. Much simplier that way. Further, never had a fraud alert. Then again, I'm not a serial on-line shopper either.

A credit freeze sounds like a good pre-emptive measure to head-off any untoward advances and hi-jacks.
 
Originally Posted By: sleddriver
Welcome to The New World Order: Global Fraud...


So true. I have some fond memories of the pre-internet era. I can remember getting the annual federal tax forms in the mail, with social security numbers printed on the address label.

UK residents, take note of this:

"...In a notable sign of the times, cybercrime has now surpassed all other forms of crime in the United Kingdom, the nation’s National Crime Agency (NCA) warned in a new report………………….According to the NCA, cybercrime emerged as the largest proportion of total crime in the U.K., with “cyber enabled fraud” making up 36 percent of all crime reported, and “computer misuse” accounting for 17 percent…"

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/07/cybercrime-overtakes-traditional-crime-in-uk/#more-35465
 
Wow....


Seems like quite a few people are getting hit lately-

Had someone use my chase card twice last year...been lucky this year so far. Wife did get her department store card hit though...


Rumors have been floating around that many if not all cards will start charging for fraud protection soon...just shows you how bad it really is!
 
I only have one credit card that I use for online purchases. It was hit last year along with my debit card right at Christmas time. I never use my debit card online. Luckily both were caught by my bank before any damage was done.
 
Been a 'victim' once.
I took the Defensive Driving Class online (paid with Credit Card).
3 days later my C.C. is charged for (2) $50. Gift Cards at some coffee shop.
Makes me wonder.
Fortunately for me, my C.C. expired the Week it was hacked and I received a new card & number.

I always try to pay online with PayPal.
I'm sure even PayPal is not the safest, but at least I'm not giving the C.C. # to all sorts of business's.

Putting a credit freeze in place is a great idea.
I have not done it yet, but will reconsider.

In this day and age, I just figure my personal info is out there.
Monitoring my financial accounts is top priority.
And if attacked, I will have a plan to execute.

I do like the credit freeze idea.
 
Larry,

When you do a free credt check at annual credt report, you can freeze your credit at one of the 3 credit reporting agency.

Very easy to do and you have to create a PIN # to unlock for a future date if you want to apply for credit to buy a car, new credit card, etc...
 
I supervise a fraud investigation unit. ID theft is hard to harden yourself against because your vital personal info, of which here in the US your SSN is the key to the credit kingdom, your pvt info is in so many databases that are breachable or have already been breached that it's impossible to prevent. The percentage of businesses that have been targeted in a data breach is staggering. There is no way the individual can control what happens to his or her personal info, you can insist on providing your state driver license number in lieu of your SSN when a business or usually a medical administrative office demands your SSN, and that is a good practice but it's already out there in a thousand databases already.

I personally do NOT use a debit card. Sure the bank is bound by the terms of the fraud protection agreement to reimburse your account, but it will take several days or more to do and in the mean time your account can go negative and any auto debits coming out monthly will bounce causing headaches, etc. Plus you get to lose sleep about your money stolen and what if the bank doesn't make you whole again. Sure they will but when you wake up at 3am to pee that is what is going to come crashing into the forefront of thought as you try to go back to sleep.

I only do credit cards. You're fronting the bank's money, not yours. Think of it as a barrier between your money and the bad guys. Your credit card gets defrauded... you just dispute it and no worries about the money in your actual bank account.

ID theft and fraudulent credit accounts are a real pain though. But you just need to file dispute with the creditor or tell the collection agency it's ID Theft. A police report will be required and an ID Theft Affidavit propreitary to the collection agency or creditor to get the fraudulent debt flushed from your records. Then placing a fraud alert on your credit file with Experian, Trans Union, or Equifax is the additional step along with checking your credit report from each of them for accuracy. I say collection agency because we see a lot of cases where the victim only finds out after getting a collection letter or other form of communication about a bad debt they never made.

And for God's sake, don't write paper checks anymore if you can help it. Everything a bad guy or gal needs to hit your account is right there on the face of that check. When you hand off a check you're saying "Here, here's everything you need to raid my account..."

Next thing, don't ever leave outgoing mail with checks in it or any personal info in it, out in your street mailbox for the Letter Carrier to pickup. There are organized rings of thieves/fraudsters who go around harvesting checks from US Mail this way. They particularly like when you make their job even more easier and more efficient by raising that metal red flag on your mailbox. You're not just letting the post man know you've got letters to go out, you're literally flagging down a thief by advertising your outgoing mail in that way.

They don't use your actual check. They use the info off it to either do online debit or they produce counterfeit checks off it. Back in the day they might ahve washed the check with a chem solution to remove only the ink pen writing and then re-wrote it but no one does that anymore.

Narcotics traffickers and street gangs are getting into fraud and ID Theft because it is so lucrative and the penalties are often much lighter than drug crimes.
 
Originally Posted By: xfactor9
A few weeks ago my friend was a victim of identity theft. Someone opened a couple of accounts in his name, and by the time he noticed, they became delinquent and were sent to a debt collector. He contacted the 3 credit bureaus to sort out the problem and put a freeze on his credit reports. I don't know if the issues have been resolved. He also had 20 'hard' credit inquiries. His fico dropped by 150 points.

It's made me contemplate pre-emptively putting a freeze on mine. Has anyone here done that?



I've done exactly that. Nobody can access my credit report without my authorization to do so. I think it's something everyone should do and would stop a good bit but not all of this stuff. Also set up your credit card so that any charges over a certain amount are reported to you, to alert you if something major happens. There are a lot of alerts you can set up on your account. it might result in a lot of texts of emails but it will help keep you safe. A lot of this stuff is caused by people stealing the information from the RF chips being put in the cards to make them "safer". I only carry one card with me and it's unchipped. And always review your statements carefully. Criminals often start out by charging something very small to see if it works or not and then work their way up.
 
Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
I supervise a fraud investigation unit. ID theft is hard to harden yourself against because your vital personal info, of which here in the US your SSN is the key to the credit kingdom, your pvt info is in so many databases that are breachable or have already been breached that it's impossible to prevent. The percentage of businesses that have been targeted in a data breach is staggering. There is no way the individual can control what happens to his or her personal info, you can insist on providing your state driver license number in lieu of your SSN when a business or usually a medical administrative office demands your SSN, and that is a good practice but it's already out there in a thousand databases already.

I personally do NOT use a debit card. Sure the bank is bound by the terms of the fraud protection agreement to reimburse your account, but it will take several days or more to do and in the mean time your account can go negative and any auto debits coming out monthly will bounce causing headaches, etc. Plus you get to lose sleep about your money stolen and what if the bank doesn't make you whole again. Sure they will but when you wake up at 3am to pee that is what is going to come crashing into the forefront of thought as you try to go back to sleep.

I only do credit cards. You're fronting the bank's money, not yours. Think of it as a barrier between your money and the bad guys. Your credit card gets defrauded... you just dispute it and no worries about the money in your actual bank account.

ID theft and fraudulent credit accounts are a real pain though. But you just need to file dispute with the creditor or tell the collection agency it's ID Theft. A police report will be required and an ID Theft Affidavit propreitary to the collection agency or creditor to get the fraudulent debt flushed from your records. Then placing a fraud alert on your credit file with Experian, Trans Union, or Equifax is the additional step along with checking your credit report from each of them for accuracy. I say collection agency because we see a lot of cases where the victim only finds out after getting a collection letter or other form of communication about a bad debt they never made.

And for God's sake, don't write paper checks anymore if you can help it. Everything a bad guy or gal needs to hit your account is right there on the face of that check. When you hand off a check you're saying "Here, here's everything you need to raid my account..."

Next thing, don't ever leave outgoing mail with checks in it or any personal info in it, out in your street mailbox for the Letter Carrier to pickup. There are organized rings of thieves/fraudsters who go around harvesting checks from US Mail this way. They particularly like when you make their job even more easier and more efficient by raising that metal red flag on your mailbox. You're not just letting the post man know you've got letters to go out, you're literally flagging down a thief by advertising your outgoing mail in that way.

They don't use your actual check. They use the info off it to either do online debit or they produce counterfeit checks off it. Back in the day they might ahve washed the check with a chem solution to remove only the ink pen writing and then re-wrote it but no one does that anymore.

Narcotics traffickers and street gangs are getting into fraud and ID Theft because it is so lucrative and the penalties are often much lighter than drug crimes.


Very helpful information. Absolutely right about the checks and debit cards. I absolutely won't do business with anyone who won't take credit cards. The stolen check game has been around for a long time. And if you absolutely have to write a check, for God's sake drop it in a public secure mailbox.
 
Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
I supervise a fraud investigation unit. ID theft is hard to harden yourself against because your vital personal info, of which here in the US your SSN is the key to the credit kingdom, your pvt info is in so many databases that are breachable or have already been breached that it's impossible to prevent...


I would bet that the ancient computer systems and networks at the Social Security Administration have been hacked multiple times. I read a few years ago that federal agencies are not required to divulge data breaches. Not sure if that is still true.
 
Originally Posted By: SubLGT
Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
I supervise a fraud investigation unit. ID theft is hard to harden yourself against because your vital personal info, of which here in the US your SSN is the key to the credit kingdom, your pvt info is in so many databases that are breachable or have already been breached that it's impossible to prevent...


I would bet that the ancient computer systems and networks at the Social Security Administration have been hacked multiple times. I read a few years ago that federal agencies are not required to divulge data breaches. Not sure if that is still true.


That wouldn't be surprising but I think if it has happened, we would be seeing a lot more chaos than what we have. It's a scary thought.
 
Originally Posted By: spasm3
How effective are services like lifelock?



You can freeze your credit and have no need to pay the subscription for lifelock.
 
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