CX-5 0-60

[rationull]

"Waste of gas"? "Drive in that manner"? Geez!

What's wrong w/ a 0-60 blast now and again? "0-60" type onramp blasts (when traffic allows safely, of course) are the best part about "normal" commute type driving!

Why would driving this car the way it was build to be driven shorten its life in any meaningful way? And the amount of gas Nick wasted w/ this activity is minuscule -- probably unmeasurably small - compared to the amount of gas wasted by just a single extra trip to the store, post office, or whatever. Let alone any driving at all associated with hobbies or social activities.


Nice car Nick, and thanks for posting the video. Even if it's not fast, 0-60 videos are a great way to get an idea what various cars sound like!

 

[rslifkin]

That thing is definitely pretty slow! It doesn't look undrivably slow, but considering the magazine tests are showing the 0-60 in the 9.5 - 9.7 second range, it's not even remotely quick.

Oh, and for those who are complaining about wasting gas, I'm sure I wasted far more doing this (which I need to do again, as I've improved things since):

 

[Cujet]

Nice responsive little engine. Looks to be just over 10 seconds.

I rented the previous version of this car, and it did not seem as fast as yours.

I'm amazed they can run compression ratio's that high. Can it run E-85 too?

 

[Nick R]

Originally Posted By: rslifkin
That thing is definitely pretty slow! It doesn't look undrivably slow, but considering the magazine tests are showing the 0-60 in the 9.5 - 9.7 second range, it's not even remotely quick.

Oh, and for those who are complaining about wasting gas, I'm sure I wasted far more doing this (which I need to do again, as I've improved things since):


The beginning of the run was going uphill which definitely didn't help. It probably is rnormally in the 9.5-9.7 range.

Originally Posted By: Cujet
Nice responsive little engine. Looks to be just over 10 seconds.

I rented the previous version of this car, and it did not seem as fast as yours.

I'm amazed they can run compression ratio's that high. Can it run E-85 too?
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Mazda was quite clever with this engine. New piston design, new DI nozzle and timing, and a 4-2-1 exhaust header. I don't think it can run E-85 but then I didn't ask since it's not really available up here. But it does run perfectly fine on 87 octane, so they did something right.

 

[rslifkin]

Yeah, being uphill certainly doesn't help with speed. For a car that doesn't spend a ton of time on the highway, it should do great. Around here, at least (with tons of hills and short merges), it would probably be lacking a bit on the highway.

 

[Nick R]

Originally Posted By: rslifkin
Yeah, being uphill certainly doesn't help with speed. For a car that doesn't spend a ton of time on the highway, it should do great. Around here, at least (with tons of hills and short merges), it would probably be lacking a bit on the highway.


Well 85% of my commute is highway. And in the afternoon stop and go for about 10 miles. But it's doing great, with the stop and go, I'm averaging 28mpg.

 

[rslifkin]

The mileage definitely sounds good! I can't get that downhill with a tailwind

And upstate NY highways are certainly more open than what we've got around here, so merging isn't as much of a drag racing affair.

 

[jdeare]

Does this have the sport mode for the transmission (aka manual shift mode)? My 3 feels somewhat faster in Sport, although not significantly.

 

[rjundi]

That is really slow car. Little suprised the MPG(28) is not better. My Acura MDX(3.7V6 300HP) manages about 20MPG now after 11000 miles with easy driving.

Occasional full throttle 0-60 does not waste much of any fuel according to average MPG guage with hand calcs that back up the number reported.

 

[IndyIan]

Originally Posted By: rjundi
That is really slow car. Little suprised the MPG(28) is not better. My Acura MDX(3.7V6 300HP) manages about 20MPG now after 11000 miles with easy driving.

Occasional full throttle 0-60 does not waste much of any fuel according to average MPG guage with hand calcs that back up the number reported.

20mpg is pretty bad mileage for a new car, I can almost beat that driving both my cars at the same time...
Anyways, I like the 0-60 videos as you do get an idea of the gearing and the sound of the motor. I did one of the Neon a couple years ago, maybe I'll post it for posterity and troll fodder someday.

 

[asiancivicmaniac]

Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Originally Posted By: rjundi
That is really slow car. Little suprised the MPG(28) is not better. My Acura MDX(3.7V6 300HP) manages about 20MPG now after 11000 miles with easy driving.

Occasional full throttle 0-60 does not waste much of any fuel according to average MPG guage with hand calcs that back up the number reported.

20mpg is pretty bad mileage for a new car, I can almost beat that driving both my cars at the same time...




Except both of your cars put together probably won't touch 300 hp.

 

[Hokiefyd]

Originally Posted By: IndyIan
20mpg is pretty bad mileage for a new car, I can almost beat that driving both my cars at the same time...


The subject vehicle is a 4,500 pound AWD SUV with 300 horsepower. 20 mpg with the associated capability, refinement, and performance of the overall vehicle is a fine tradeoff in my opinion.

We get nearly the same economy with our '05, except that ours makes only 253 hp.

 

[KrisZ]

Originally Posted By: asiancivicmaniac
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Originally Posted By: rjundi
That is really slow car. Little suprised the MPG(28) is not better. My Acura MDX(3.7V6 300HP) manages about 20MPG now after 11000 miles with easy driving.

Occasional full throttle 0-60 does not waste much of any fuel according to average MPG guage with hand calcs that back up the number reported.

20mpg is pretty bad mileage for a new car, I can almost beat that driving both my cars at the same time...




Except both of your cars put together probably won't touch 300 hp.


Why do people think that half the horsepower should equal twice the gas mileage? Things don't work that way in real life.

And quite frankly going from a 20mpg car to a 28 mpg car saves quite a bit more fuel than going from a 28mpg car to a 40mpg car. So yes, 20mpg is pretty bad.

 

[rjundi]

Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
20mpg is pretty bad mileage for a new car, I can almost beat that driving both my cars at the same time...


The subject vehicle is a 4,500 pound AWD SUV with 300 horsepower. 20 mpg with the associated capability, refinement, and performance of the overall vehicle is a fine tradeoff in my opinion.

We get nearly the same economy with our '05, except that ours makes only 253 hp.


The subject vehicle is used quite a bit to carry around 5 kids(with 1 driver) in boosters with majority of driving <10 mile trips. It seems to somehow beat by 1MPG the Honda Ody and Toyota Sienna(same vintage 2007) in similar conditions which surprised me given AWD in mine. Wife picked it.

 

[hypervish]

That's pretty slow. I don't even want to know how slow it is when it's packed with passengers, and luggage.

But, nonetheless the gas mileage is probably worth it to you.

 

[hypervish]

Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
20mpg is pretty bad mileage for a new car, I can almost beat that driving both my cars at the same time...


The subject vehicle is a 4,500 pound AWD SUV with 300 horsepower. 20 mpg with the associated capability, refinement, and performance of the overall vehicle is a fine tradeoff in my opinion.

We get nearly the same economy with our '05, except that ours makes only 253 hp.


Exactly. It's an Acura, you gotta pay to play! I think 20 mpg is pretty good, I much rather drive a luxury mdx than an econobox.

 

[JHZR2]

Seriously? Its a honda.

Too bad the Lexus RX isnt a three row SUV. Ive just always preferred the build quality of that over acura. Granted that's just a toyota and probably no more different from a camry than an MDX is from an accord...

But WRT the CX-5, for all the comments about how slow it is, I dont know, I think that's silly. Dont tractor trailers, dumptrucks, school busses and similar vehicles all merge onto highways and put millions of safe miles on each year with far slower acceleration? To a great extent the acceleration argument is way overblown IMO. That is coming from someone who has cars at both ends of the spectrum, and mostly slower cars.

 

[rationull]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2

But WRT the CX-5, for all the comments about how slow it is, I dont know, I think that's silly. Dont tractor trailers, dumptrucks, school busses and similar vehicles all merge onto highways and put millions of safe miles on each year with far slower acceleration? To a great extent the acceleration argument is way overblown IMO. That is coming from someone who has cars at both ends of the spectrum, and mostly slower cars.


Well, it *is* slow compared to a lot of newer cars. I do agree that anyone saying it's "dangerously slow" or anything like that is off base. It looks sufficiently fast to me, and probably drives great (from what Nick's said it sounds like the transmission programming is pretty good). I expect more cars like this (a little slow) as time goes on.

 

[supton]

My TDi runs something like 11 seconds 0-60. Manages to easily merge onto any highway. Yet if you ask me passing on a two lane means I better have a long open stretch. It's a bit slow on that, even with a downshift or two. With a rural drive that's fine; but if I had to live in a more suburban area I might feel otherwise. [Or not, hard to say w/o living there.]

 

[Hokiefyd]

I used to get a rise out of going fast. Anymore, not so much. After I had kids, my driving really slowed down. I don't think it was anything intentional, it just happened. Life events sometimes re-define what's really important in life.

If you asked me eight years ago if I'd be happy with a 4-cylinder SUV that does 0-60 in 10 seconds, I'd say that you'd be crazy. Funny how a guy who used to love 300 horsepower V-8s can think his 166 hp SUV has more than enough power.