Cv Axle Boot Grease Oil Query

[moonlightblue]

Hello everyone,

The car is 2005 Suzuki Swift 4x4. I am planning to replace both inner Cv axle boots which are close to the rear differential.

I have already purchased Ridex cv axle boots which come with grease pack inside the package.

I have 2 questions:

1- Can I rely on the quality of that grease oil that is coming with the aftermarket Ridex brand boots? If not then which brand/type grease do I need ?

2- Will the grease inside in each package be enough for each boot?

Looking forward to read your valuable opinions.

Many thanks in advance

 

[Arc]

On my 05 Ram AWD + 4x4 they never last long enough to worry about the grease. I get maybe two years out of them. I would think the best grease would be the stickiest brand you can find.

 

[TomYoung]

Are the boots from China? If so, use a different grease.

 

[moonlightblue]

Are the boots from China? If so, use a different grease.

Ridex is German based brand sold by Autodoc de but probably can be made in china I do not know.

 

[eliot99]

Most aftermarket boot kits include just enough standard CV grease, but I wouldn’t rely on it being top quality. Many folks swap it out for proper CV joint grease.

 

[Capt W]

Will the grease inside in each package be enough for each boot?

Not sure what you're asking with regard to the boot. The grease provided is intended to pack the joint itself (tripod, spider, etc.). Any excess can go into the boot.

 

[martinq]

I would measure / weigh the amount of grease that comes with each boot and then use that amount of Red Line CV2 grease or whatever quality CV grease you have available. There might be more detailed information in the mfg service manual.

https://www.redlineoil.com/cv-2-grease

Location? What lubricant brands are available where you are?

 

[D60]

I'll confess I've always wondered about the quality of grease in the cheap boot kits, but typically I use it anyway. However most stuff I reboot is old beaters where something else is going to fail before the grease causes an issue.

On a newer/nicer vehicle I do keep a tub of Redline

 

[GI_GRIFF]

I see @martinq already recommended this in response #7. Here is a link to it on Amazon for a little more money if you prefer ordering from them.

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-804...1249128011&rnid=1249126011&rps=1&sr=8-11&th=1

 

[MyWifesBoyfriend]

I would measure / weigh the amount of grease that comes with each boot and then use that amount of Red Line CV2 grease or whatever quality CV grease you have available. There might be more detailed information in the mfg service manual.

https://www.redlineoil.com/cv-2-grease

Location? What lubricant brands are available where you are?

I always thought that grease with solid particles (eg moly) should be avoided for inner tripod joints? My understanding was that the particles mess up the needle bearings.

 

[martinq]

I see @martinq already recommended this in response #7. Here is a link to it on Amazon for a little more money if you prefer ordering from them.

https://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-80401-Grease-Ounce/dp/B0053O9FQS/ref=sr_1_11?adgrpid=1338106217289767&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.kgcGNk0r9TH6jTc634bmWsPM2lcsmWs6XCn3-IeJHO5PYhuj6-nL2Q2P-K7YZK45T6JJZqoEiFSrf2Kq9DEaceTHYilXeVXqX9I0SVj0F4A6KamXPI_mFLiphlT33npAukPEj1b6Ed8ty3107nILYtzQ2hC7grvP7y1xRFHEERRTdOv5baSKWVBF9jCLH1Xq7-x08M6D6hp_MhbN8aELvm4WBcznPQnTVxKsIE4lJhL-XCKFYLrHAUp_XaKhQqz4FVUpJqGa6C1iZvClVZItLTKgDVrGlZePcef_Q0za9iw.o4uRTMCfNwXEen_hvjttSdxGYEYKKGMaFEC_86Ue-3Q&dib_tag=se&hvadid=83631877581337&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=98678&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvtargid=kwd-83631988108199:loc-190&hydadcr=5707_13190786&keywords=cv+boot+grease&mcid=1bbaf45026383349adfd6e77c218f75f&qid=1771005346&refinements=p_n_condition-type:6503254011,p_76:1249128011&rnid=1249126011&rps=1&sr=8-11&th=1

I cleaned up that horrendous link for you:
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Line-80401-Grease-Ounce/dp/B0053O9FQS/

 

[GI_GRIFF]

I read about that many years ago. Since then, I've used nothing but moly fortified greases in all my application with much better results than the non- moly fortified greases. I really doubt if Red Line Lubricants would put out a CV joint specific grease to damage CV joints. Another good option would be Schaeffer Oil #274 grease.

 

[martinq]

I always thought that grease with solid particles (eg moly) should be avoided for inner tripod joints? My understanding was that the particles mess up the needle bearings.

That is true of the typical moly additives of the past but not the organic moly that Red Line uses or is seems the modern moly additives. I just took a look over Valvoline's light-duty grease line and they have three greases recommended for CV application.

 

[moonlightblue]

I'll confess I've always wondered about the quality of grease in the cheap boot kits, but typically I use it anyway. However most stuff I reboot is old beaters where something else is going to fail before the grease causes an issue.

On a newer/nicer vehicle I do keep a tub of Redline

Yes I am planningto fill the box side with grease and remaining to go to the boot.

 

[moonlightblue]

I would measure / weigh the amount of grease that comes with each boot and then use that amount of Red Line CV2 grease or whatever quality CV grease you have available. There might be more detailed information in the mfg service manual.

https://www.redlineoil.com/cv-2-grease

Location? What lubricant brands are available where you are?

Redline or Valvoline does not exist. All I can find in small amounts is the Liqui LM 47 Grease with Mos2 additive. (but I suspect about Mos2 additive existance as Liqui Moly is not a reliable brand). Is that the correct one?

 

[moonlightblue]

I always thought that grease with solid particles (eg moly) should be avoided for inner tripod joints? My understanding was that the particles mess up the needle bearings.

What do you mean? So I should not use MOs2 grease? I can only find Liqui Moly LM 47 grease (mos2)

 

[moonlightblue]

I read about that many years ago. Since then, I've used nothing but moly fortified greases in all my application with much better results than the non- moly fortified greases. I really doubt if Red Line Lubricants would put out a CV joint specific grease to damage CV joints. Another good option would be Schaeffer Oil #274 grease.

Do you mean mos2 as moly fortified? There is only Liqui Moly Lm 47 here. I can not find anything else in this country.

 

[GI_GRIFF]

Liqui Moly is not a reliable brand

Liqui Moly is a reliable premium product. They started in 1957 with their MoS2 moly additive. They are the biggest selling most popular engine oil/additive brand in Germany. All their products are manufactured in Germany. There are haters here on Bitog because here in the states Liqui Moly is quite a bit more expensive than other brands of equal quality. Of course, here on Bitog there are those that say if you are paying any more than the Walmart brand SuperTech "big sale" price for ANY engine oil, you are a fool! Yes, MoS2 is Moly and if it has MoS2 in it, it is Moly fortified. Use the LM 47, it will probably be the highest quality CV joint grease you have ever used. I would assume the Red Line product is even better, but that is an assumption on my part.
Another Liqui Moly grease for CV joints at Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Liqui-Moly-2...sprefix=liqui+moly+lm2003,aps,178&sr=8-1&th=1

 

[nobb]

Most reboot kits use the same CV grease packet on inner and outer joints and depending on the size of the CV, can often times not be enough grease. Many OE's use a different type of grease on the inner vs outer joint. Eg: the inner joint with needle bearings usually takes a lower viscosity grease that flows better. CV grease is usually a high moly grease, although in the past I have accidentally just used standard NGLI GC-GB grease and there was no problem. TBH I don't think I've ever heard of a CV joint wearing out provided there's some form of grease in there and the boot isn't torn.

 

[Trav]

Ridex is the house brand of Autodoc and sorry to say but not very good quality products. I would go to the dealer and buy OE with the OE grease. There are only a few greases that are compatible with inner tripod joints and Reline CV2 is not one of them and neither is Liqui Moly, they may be fine for outer joints but not the inner in this type of joint.