The only tire thats nice on ice (see what I did there?) is a studded winter tire.
I live in Colorado and know all about driving on ice.
Cross climate 2 after 20,000 miles
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I live in Colorado and know all about driving on ice.
For several decades I ran the latest and greatest Blizzaks on all 4 wheels on our vehicles every winter. Twice they showed their incredible ability to grip on ice when other vehicles were wrecking. I drove around them with complete control. Though i did drive slow, no other vehicle in sight made it through those ice obsticle courses. One had every vehicle besides mine stuck with the entire drivers side of their vehicle damaged as it came to a stop sliding along the median gardrail. The other had every vehicle that tried it with the front right tire either blown out from hitting the side of the tire against a curb or if the tire did not blow because they were going slow enough they were just stuck there. I drove past both seanes (that btw were several years apart and in different locations) with complete control.
And my brother had a set (4) of Blizzaks on his vehicle when he exited the inbound Fort Pitt tunnel onto the bridge covered in ice with an identical car going the same speed behind him. There is a very slight turn there and he had no problem. The other identical car behind him slid into the cement side of the bridge when it could not turn.
So, there is at least one type of tire without studs that grips on ice.
CC2 may be another that also does, and the BFG Advantage with the TPMSF that I have on my CR-V now might also be.
And my brother had a set (4) of Blizzaks on his vehicle when he exited the inbound Fort Pitt tunnel onto the bridge covered in ice with an identical car going the same speed behind him. There is a very slight turn there and he had no problem. The other identical car behind him slid into the cement side of the bridge when it could not turn.
So, there is at least one type of tire without studs that grips on ice.
CC2 may be another that also does, and the BFG Advantage with the TPMSF that I have on my CR-V now might also be.
Blizzaks, WS & DM series, have their trickery. The 1st half has their Tube-Multicell (whatever they call it) compound, that is very porous, optimized for wet/warm ice. After that, then it has a different compound, these days a regular high silica winter compound.
Lm-series is just a high silica winter compound 100%
How's the noise level compared to other tires you have run?
O.K. How do you think they compare to other tires you have run?
Thanks for the info.
I have comments about the noise. we have 2 sets. Neither whine or sing or hum like you’d expect. There’s just regular road rolling rumble. I hear the growl during moderate braking. I’ve typically found Michelin tires to be average or even louder. In comparison, upper end Bridgestones have always been quieter. I’ve also found BFGs can be a little louder. Our CC2s fall somewhere in the middle, but on the better side of middle, or not quite as quiet as Bridgestones, but quieter that say old Goodyears.
Now I'm noticing it's easier to get traction control/stability control to kick in, on dry roads.
When I'm gunning it from a green light to merge onto a highway, wheel(s) spinning (during the traffic metering times).
When I'm taking the on-ramp curve aggressive to get to speed to merge onto a highway, the stability control kicks in, since the tires don't seem to be liking a little aggressive driving on my gas-sipping hybrid SUV
When I'm gunning it from a green light to merge onto a highway, wheel(s) spinning (during the traffic metering times).
When I'm taking the on-ramp curve aggressive to get to speed to merge onto a highway, the stability control kicks in, since the tires don't seem to be liking a little aggressive driving on my gas-sipping hybrid SUV
Yes, mine are on a RWD. If you push it hard into a corner, it will drift the rear sooner than anything else I’ve known. However, you’ve got to be pushing it, with power. The FWD crv does not do this. The other thing is, while they don’t hum or sing, they probably get average marks for rolling noise. The set on the Lexus for whatever reason seems louder than the set on the CRV, the they replaced UHP A/S, not known for the quietest attributes. the drifting is plenty controlled and by no means a detractor, just a note.
My CC2s are not as easy to spin as the OEMs on my 300C 5.7L but they will still spin 
Here’s 29,000 miles
What’s that metal thing? It’s not leaking air, so I’m not going to bother. Maybe it would marginally improve snow/ice traction
What’s that metal thing? It’s not leaking air, so I’m not going to bother. Maybe it would marginally improve snow/ice traction
not leaking air, I'd pull it out. both of them. I would not want it pushed further in. If it does leak I'd rather know now and get it fixed while easy swap in driveway.
It would give me a good reason to ditch them after winter... either a set of Defender 2/Costco X-tour A/s-2 or Nokian Tyres One, and start working on getting an extra set of wheels from a 2020+ Highlander 18x8" wheels or Lexus RX350 18x8" wheels and decide between Nokian WR G4 SUV (again) or try the Nokian Outpost APT.
Or just make those plans anyway and sell these locally with good tread. Someone might be ecstatic to get them for a couple hundred $$. Easier to sell with no plugs/patches probably. What is actual measured tread depth after 20k?
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I'm intrigued by the tread pattern for this tire. At first glance, it looks like this would be noisy - small tread elements, all the same size - and then I notice they aren't all the same size. Plus, the element is long, so it only looks like it would be noisy.
Clever!
Clever!
These have low road hum on my RX 350 but they do kind of have a dodgeball-like boing over expansion joints that's kinda weird.
I thought this was interesting.