Crappiest car make / model?

[buster]

I agree with Al.

There are so many GM/Chrysler cars during the 80's that would make this list. I remember the 80's Camaros! AAHHH...what poorly built, plastic, shiite cars they were. Japan was the only country making quality at that time....some say they still are.

[ April 03, 2004, 08:19 PM: Message edited by: buster ]

 

[Chris B.]

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I agree with Al.

There are so many GM/Chrysler cars during the 80's that would make this list. I remember the 80's Camaros! AAHHH...what poorly built, plastic, shiite cars they were. Japan was the only country making quality at that time....some say they still are.

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80's Camaros were way cool! They would blow anything Japan had to offer at the time out of the water! They were tough cars and A LOT are still crusing around!

Those old 327,350,400,454's were tough old motors!

 

[buster]

Thats true Chris, but the problem GM had and still has is that they don't understand REFINEMENT. Even this year at the Auto Show, the GM cars lack quality interiors. They are plastic and fall apart. GM has made some great motors but everything else lags behind IMO.

 

[Last_Z]

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My 02 Z28 had all 8 pistons replaced.......other than that, is a very good car.

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How is the Z doing these days?

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Ha ha....the slap seems to be coming back a bit. It was noticeable yesterday. I'm eager to run the 15W-50 M1 to see how it does.

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Is it burning any oil at all?

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It never did before and thank god it doesn't do it now either. The slapping and clacking is begining to be noticeable again.....not as loud as before though. I'm keeping it though.....unless I was getting a brand new engine (preferably and LS6)

 

[Chris B.]

Just drive it into the ground! I'm keeping mine forever as a collectable and will some day have a C6/C6 to replace it.

 

[cryptokid]

i think alot of it has to do with the type of driver which buys the car, and not so much the car its self.

lets take kia for example. if you read any reviews on the sephia you would see its a tinny piece of crap that warps brake rotors every 5K miles and blows engines in 20K, among a host of other problems.
then read a review of a mazda protege of the same year and see dramitically less problems.

its funny because a kia sephia and protege share 95% of the same components, so how is it that kia has all these problems but the protege with the exact same parts doesnt?

i think it has to do with the driver. what kind of person buys a kia anyways? someone who probably does not have alot of cash sitting around for one thing. and they would probably not take very good care of the car, and maybe beat on it alot and neglect it.

so to read car reviews and "number of complaints per model" is a very flawed thing. kia consistantly ranks dead last or near last in terms of quality, yet mazda who makes the exact same car ranks consistantly in the upper class in terms of quality. how can this be possible? its gotta be the type of driver which buys the car i think.

p.s for the worst car my votes go to the vega and anything old and british.

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[ToyotaNSaturn]

86-95 Ford Taurus. Arnold Schwartenegger starred in a movie about it called "Total Recall".

--Recalls for this vehicle--
3.8L motor mounts (2 recalls)
Heater hose
tie rod ends
front rotor replacement (2 recalls)
Fuel pump
3.8L Upper-end gasket kits
Seat belts
Air Bags
speedo cable


--infamous Non-recall items--
radiator fan motor
speedo clusters
radios (LOTS of radios)
Transmisions (countless repair kits)
axle shafts/boots
cannister purge valves
starters
TFI modules
100amp alternators (weren't these mounted near the bottom of the engine?)

I just didn't see these kinds of issues with the Town Cars or Mark VII's in the shop. Mercury Lynx? Well, that's a different story...

Did Fiats or AMC's really have more problems than the Taurus/Sables?

 

[2003TRD]

Holy crap, that gremlin is cherry. Where can I pick one of those up?

 

[klingon20]

Yep Just bought the new Chevy Aveo about a week ago, so far a good little car.
I put 600 miles on it some at high speed and changed the oil, the next oci will be at 2,000 miles.
Im thinking after my second oil change i will run super tec 5w30 syn.
That daewoo etec engine seems fairly peppy, that engine has been around for years and backed with the chevy warranty 60 months/60,000 miles i should get years of California commutting with this vehicle.
Keep in mind i ride a motorcycle over 200 days out of the year.

 

[ryansride2017]

I'd imagine if we would have enough people respond to this thread, just about every vehicle ever manufactured would be listed.

I'll use Saturn (which was listed above) as an example. I have had a positive experience with Saturn but if someone had something go wrong with with a Saturn vehicle they would consider Saturn a terrible vehicle manufacturer. EVERY car manufacturer produces a lemon every now and again.

As technology has continued to develop, I don't know if there is a car on the market today that I would avoid and label a piece of junk. I have brands I stick with but that is only because of loyalty with past experiences which probably has to do more with luck than anything else.

Nearly all cars built in the 60's and 70's are junk compared to the cars built today.

Just my thoughts.

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[Patman]

Ford Tempo!

Is there any of these on the road whose wheels are straight? Everyone I see has it's front wheels so badly off kilter that I'm shocked these things can travel in a straight line.

 

[n8wvi]

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Ford Tempo!

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IIRC, the only adjustment was the toe. Caster and camber were fixed.
The cast aluminum oil pan was ingenious too, one good bump, and it's time for a new one (or some JB Weld!). They ate tie rod ends for lunch (so did the Escort before they were Mazdas).

My vote though goes to the LeCar. Would you ride in anything that had 3 lugs/wheel?

Dave

 

[WDP]

English anything, except for the hand produced over priced status symbols. The English with the help of Mr. Lucas can't build a car. Know what MG stands for?? May Go--- but probably won't.

WDP

 

[rob-the-oil-nut]

Joke: How do you double the value of a Yugo?
Fill it with gas!

Maybe they weren't available in the US but I'm surprised Skoda didn't seem to come up in any postings.
Regards
Rob-the-oil-nut

 

[GT Mike]

My vote goes to the Diamond Star cars from Chrysler/Mitsubishi's joint venture. You know, the Laser/Talon/Eclipse. I haven't had a single one come thru the dealership that wasn't a mechanical nightmare. The best combination seems to be the anemic 1.8L engine with a manual tranny. The automatics were crap, and don't even get me started on what a pile of junk that DOHC 2.0L engine is! Timing belt chucking, valve smacking, oil drinking piece of trash.
The electronics sucked the fat one too, not to mention the interior looked like it was designed by a teenager. You can't get the steering wheel more than 2" off your lap no matter where the seat or wheel is positioned if you're over 6' tall. Actually, the whole car has a certain radio-controlled racer look to it. Looks like the designers bought a R/C car at Wal-Mart and made it life-sized.

I know there's guys out there that make these cars incredibly fast, but anything can be made to go fast if it's light enough, and you throw enough boost and nitrous at it. Going fast reliably is another story, and these sorry excuses for transportation definitely get a failing grade in that department.

I'll be so happy when the majority of these little turds end up crushed so the kids that come into the dealership stop bugging me about finding them one.

 

[XS650]

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English anything, except for the hand produced over priced status symbols. The English with the help of Mr. Lucas can't build a car. Know what MG stands for?? May Go--- but probably won't.

WDP

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Which Engish cars made in the past 20 years do you have any experiance with?

 

[XS650]

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My vote goes to the Diamond Star cars from Chrysler/Mitsubishi's joint venture.

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I had two Mitsubishis. if you block out the right letters from the name it reads "its bs". Looks good on a tailgate on one of their pickups.

I had a 1980 Dogge Colt (Misubishi Mirage). It would blow the doors of it's main comptitor, a Hoinda Civic. undfotunately, it was the only Japanese car I had owned in 35 years of buying Japanese cars that required an engine rebuild at about 100,000 miles. The suspension rubber also turned to mush about then. The car was ready for the dumpster.

I inherited a Mitsubishi Turbo Diesel pickup in 1994. About a 1992 IIRC. It was a really great truck with gas engine performance and 30-35 mpg. It died at about 85,000 mile of the all too common cracked head syndrome.

Fortunately, I already had a lot of experiance with Hondas and Toyotas, so didn't give up on Japanese cars.

 

[GT Mike]

The Jap cars just don't last up here. Apparently they still haven't figured out corrosion protection, because even $40,000+ Lexus LS400s are starting to turn to iron oxide. That's pretty sad when a early 90s Cavalier's body will hold up better than some of the most expensive Japanese cars.

 

[cousincletus]

I love my Cavalier. Very dependable car. The interior isn't very plush, but it's a $10,000 economy car. Have seen many Jappers that were junked because of the high price of parts and rust problems. American makes are for the most part cheaper and easier to work on.

 

[mikep]

LOL...this entire thread is cracking me up.

Patman...very funny with the Tempo comment. My actually did have a Topaz (Mercury version) that was straight. But I know what you mean. The 70s era Chevy Nova was notorious for looking like it was driving sideways while traveling in a straight line. I'd say 20-30% of all Novas I've seen have that look. Very funny.

Who said Le Car? ROFLMAO