Crappiest car make / model?
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[ March 30, 2004, 04:36 PM: Message edited by: JohnnyO ]
Currently I don't know who to choose from, but I don't like Ford on principle
. As for the worst car ever in my opinion, well it's gotta be the Le Car from Renault
That is an easy one. Every car magazine that tested it said it was the absolute worst car they had ever tested. THE YUGO
...Have driven Toyota products, cars and 4x4 trucks, for about 15 years now with no issues to date. Am basically afraid to own a domestic of any persuation due to quality control. Except maybe for the new Pontiac Vibe which is a Toyota/GM joint venture as of late. I'm sure that there are others out there as well.
What are the "Big 3" up to now in vehicle recalls? Read awhile back where 4 million trucks are coming back next for GM. Is that in addition to the Feb recall of 636K mid size Sport Utes and the 127K Corvettes? Not aware of what's going on in house at Ford and Chrysler. Doesn't give one a warm feeling though does it? I'm not sure who's selling the "biggest pile of junk" as you asked.
What are the "Big 3" up to now in vehicle recalls? Read awhile back where 4 million trucks are coming back next for GM. Is that in addition to the Feb recall of 636K mid size Sport Utes and the 127K Corvettes? Not aware of what's going on in house at Ford and Chrysler. Doesn't give one a warm feeling though does it? I'm not sure who's selling the "biggest pile of junk" as you asked.
Chryslers are problems on wheels.
We used to have a Le Car. Lots of fun for about a year, then we traded it in due to constant repairs. A woman here at work still drives her Yugo every day for about 10 years now that I know of. I always see it in the parking lot. (How do you double the value of a Yugo? Leave your cigarettes in it!)
My vote for worst new car? The Sterling. Actually an Acura Legend clone when they first came out in '87 and built in the UK.
My vote for worst new car? The Sterling. Actually an Acura Legend clone when they first came out in '87 and built in the UK.
Currently sold in the US?
Cavalier/Sunbird
Rent one and you will never own one.
Cavalier/Sunbird
Rent one and you will never own one.
Too bad because they do have some of the best looking cars and trucks on the road IMO. To bad the cars are so prone to problems.
Daewoo, for the five days they existed, had the highest number of problems per car according to whomever tracks those things, JD Power or someone.
I have 35,000 miles on my 02, Ecotec with 5 speed, and the only problem was a warped rotor. No other repairs at all. No adjustments, no nothing, except oil changes in 2 years. Put gas in it and drive.
I do admit I hate several design features, but everybody has those stupid theft deterent systems, and the buttons for the electric window on the console are common.
Now for a piece of crap, the 15 passenger Ford Van we rented with our friends a few years ago is it. Not long afterwards, I rode in a 15 passenger Dodge that was much nicer.
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I think the biggest issue with big 3 domestics is the inconsistency. You might drive a "problematic" model for many years without any major issues at all, while someone else had nothing but problems from day one with the same model. Import or import based always seem to be more consistent, good OR bad.
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Joel
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Joel
I'd put my money on the GM X cars of the early 1980s. Chevy Citations and their clones. Absolute total pieces of ****. More recalls than any other car that I know of.
As far as imports go it would have to be FIATs. The rings were blown and the electronics were horked when they left the factory.
The Japanese just ruined the car market for a lot of countries. The french and Italians can't be expected to make a car that starts up every day and runs for hundreds of thousands of miles without problems.
As far as imports go it would have to be FIATs. The rings were blown and the electronics were horked when they left the factory.
The Japanese just ruined the car market for a lot of countries. The french and Italians can't be expected to make a car that starts up every day and runs for hundreds of thousands of miles without problems.
I was going to buy one of those new chevy Aveo or now called chevywoos,
Yep its a repackaged daewoo,but daewoo has beed making cars for over 50 year so there products have been tested and so far has stood up.
The Geo/Chevy metro was a car that gave alot of people years of trouble free service.
There have been metro know to go well over 200,000 miles.
If anyone has any info on the daewoo motor regauding its reliabilty please post it.
BTW Chevy is offering a 5 year 60,000 mile power train warranty on there new Aveo.
Yep its a repackaged daewoo,but daewoo has beed making cars for over 50 year so there products have been tested and so far has stood up.
The Geo/Chevy metro was a car that gave alot of people years of trouble free service.
There have been metro know to go well over 200,000 miles.
If anyone has any info on the daewoo motor regauding its reliabilty please post it.
BTW Chevy is offering a 5 year 60,000 mile power train warranty on there new Aveo.
I have a theory on why American cars are prone to problems when compared to their Japanese counterparts. I'll give the abridged version.
Decades ago, America was a bigger, wide open country with great roads for road trips. Families were bigger, and power and styling was paramount. The man of the house was expected to know how to open the hood of his Galaxie and fix things. So American car makers concentrated on big, powerful cars that were easy to work on. Japanese car makers concentrated on tiny cars that you didn't have to work on, because it wasn't expected that a car owner would know how. And, well... old habits die hard.
Decades ago, America was a bigger, wide open country with great roads for road trips. Families were bigger, and power and styling was paramount. The man of the house was expected to know how to open the hood of his Galaxie and fix things. So American car makers concentrated on big, powerful cars that were easy to work on. Japanese car makers concentrated on tiny cars that you didn't have to work on, because it wasn't expected that a car owner would know how. And, well... old habits die hard.
I think Japan makers concentrated on more fuel efficient cars. They got popular after the 70's oil embargo.
I suspect that Daewoo's quality problems are somewhat overstated.
I am also pretty sure that the Geo/Chevy Metro made by Suzuki was actualy a Japanese car and was actually built by Suzuki with no connection to Daewoo. The Geo badge covered Chevy imports from several companies. often the only thing they had in common was the name "Geo". The Prizm was a Toyota Corrola and was as good as a Toyota Corrola, except it forced you to deal with a Chevy dealer.
The Pontiac Lemans, was a Daewoo product. I understand it was appropriately named.
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