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Seems like Stanley/Black and Decker has decided NOT to make Craftsman hand tools in the USA after all. Just saw they closed the brand new factory in Texas and laid most if not everybody off.
Both chinesium?
Pepole like cheap and corporations like high profit margines. Our politicians have destroyed this nation by allowing the off shoring of our manufacturing base. Prove me wrong.
Need to take a look at the bigger picture. You can’t export if you don’t import and other countries don’t like to rely solely on imports either. Maybe not a specific argument to tools but still relevant.No general USA made goods can survive as long as they have to compete in a rigged game. If companies were rewarded for manufacturing here and punished for going overseas we would bring back factories and jobs, but just the opposite has happened, we reward leaving and punish staying. Short term gains over long term stability.
Pepole like cheap and corporations like high profit margines. Our politicians have destroyed this nation by allowing the off shoring of our manufacturing base. Prove me wrong.
The amount of red tape and bureaucracy is a huge part of the problem. No doubt cheaper labor but that is narrowing. Five years ago you could get a Chinese made ice cream scoop for a $1 at Walmart etc while the USA made was $15-17? Now I'm seeing the price delta narrow considerably. The "between 1978 and 1992, the output of state-owned enterprises declined from 56 percent of national output to 40 percent,while the share of collective enterprises rose from 42 to 50 percent and that of private businesses and joint ventures rose from 2 to 10 percent." Chinese wages have quadrupled, quintupled and in the last decade some factory workers have gone from .60 cents an hour to $6.00 an hour. The USA and other markets are already looking at Malaysia and the Philippines for future manufacturing as wages soar in China.Pepole like cheap and corporations like high profit margines. Our politicians have destroyed this nation by allowing the off shoring of our manufacturing base. Prove me wrong.
The amount of red tape and bureaucracy is a huge part of the problem. No doubt cheaper labor but that is narrowing. Five years ago you could get a Chinese made ice cream scoop for a $1 at Walmart etc while the USA made was $15-17? Now I'm seeing the price delta narrow considerably. The "between 1978 and 1992, the output of state-owned enterprises declined from 56 percent of national output to 40 percent,while the share of collective enterprises rose from 42 to 50 percent and that of private businesses and joint ventures rose from 2 to 10 percent." Chinese wages have quadrupled, quintupled and in the last decade some factory workers have gone from .60 cents an hour to $6.00 an hour. The USA and other markets are already looking at Malaysia and the Philippines for future manufacturing as wages soar in China.
The amount of red tape and bureaucracy is a huge part of the problem. No doubt cheaper labor but that is narrowing. Five years ago you could get a Chinese made ice cream scoop for a $1 at Walmart etc while the USA made was $15-17? Now I'm seeing the price delta narrow considerably. The "between 1978 and 1992, the output of state-owned enterprises declined from 56 percent of national output to 40 percent,while the share of collective enterprises rose from 42 to 50 percent and that of private businesses and joint ventures rose from 2 to 10 percent." Chinese wages have quadrupled, quintupled and in the last decade some factory workers have gone from .60 cents an hour to $6.00 an hour. The USA and other markets are already looking at Malaysia and the Philippines for future manufacturing as wages soar in China.
If it takes cheap foreign labor to compete - Mexico any day over China/India …What about India ?
They have a population over a billion and many wanting (needing) a job.
We used to make stuff.
I do like my Snap On tools, but I still have more Craftsman esp when it comes to sockets and wrenches. I think I have Snap On ratchets in many different tooth sizes from 36 beyond 80....they imho are excellent and worth it....We used to make stuff.
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Germany still does. I may despise their idiotic energy policies, but they still have strong domestic industry.
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We used to make stuff.
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Germany still does. I may despise their idiotic energy policies, but they still have strong domestic industry.
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