CPU possibly thermal throttling.

[R18Civic]

Well so far the KLIM is a heaping pile of poop. The 3M adhesive to stick it to the bottom of the laptop isn't strong enough to keep the device from falling off the laptop and the suction cups are so weak they won't stick to my laptop either.

 

[R18Civic]

I fixed it with some velcro strips from wally world. Will do some stress testing tomorrow

 

[Urshurak776]

Turn on v-sync to limit FPS. I think you said you already tried that. Should lower temps.

 

[Dave9]

By limiting the max FPS you’re limiting the GPU usage and in a roundabout way, the power it uses. Which proves my point that it’s the GPU that dumps the heat to the CPU.

You're right but it's doing both. When FPS is lower, it reduces work for the CPU too.

My solution is don't game on a laptop. I'm only using one instead of a desktop when traveling and then I usually have more/other things to do instead of gaming. I could see doing it if I were a college kid in a dorm room and it wasn't reasonable to bring a desktop with me, but I'm not.

Ultimately if I had overheating issues, I'd open it up and see what the thermal interface is like, and clean dust out while I'm at it. Thermal pads are terrible, and in one case I even added a copper shim to make up the extra gap when I replaced a thermal pad with good paste... but I had the sheet copper. Not everyone has sheet copper lying around, I got mine from an old 1U server's all-copper heatsink fins. I still have the remainder of those heatsinks, it's crazy what they weigh, more than an 8X larger heatpipe sink does.

 

[Skippy722]

The laptop is a little over a year old. I used to use MSI afterburner and Riva Tuner with Oblivion Remastered but Riva interacts with UE5 and makes stuttering worse.

I just bought the little doohickie Marcozi posted a link to. My main question right now is, is the CPU on the right or left side of the laptop?

If I had to guess, in this pic it’s on the right, so left when in use. Also assuming this is the right mobo. The other ones have black heat pipes, but same thing.

Edit: have you verified it’s actually throttling beyond the FPS drop? HWiNFO or whatever can help assist with that, those CPU’s liked to run HOT and shouldn’t throttle till 100C.

 

[siriusc1024]

Since it's a laptop don't forget about battery thermal throttling. Total power draw will be reduced by reducing load. Have you tried with just the power adapter and no battery?

I have encountered situations where running A/C power with the battery installed during high load makes even higher battery temps than pure battery. Depends on the battery management.

Silicon heats up fast and cools fast. Should notice your problems much sooner than you describe if it was the chipset itself.

 

[R18Civic]

Since it's a laptop don't forget about battery thermal throttling. Total power draw will be reduced by reducing load. Have you tried with just the power adapter and no battery?

I have encountered situations where running A/C power with the battery installed during high load makes even higher battery temps than pure battery. Depends on the battery management.

Silicon heats up fast and cools fast. Should notice your problems much sooner than you describe if it was the chipset itself.

The battery is inside of the laptop case. Not advisable to remove.

My laptop passed the stress test with a 98.6 score and the CPU never went above 80c with this KLIM Tempest. All in all I'm happy, lets see if it will keep it up during gaming sessions.

 

[R18Civic]

Turns out the problem lies with either the game or UE5. 95c is my lowest temp with the KLIM.

Other games run much cooler. Bethesda needs to hurry up and patch this game.

 

[Skippy722]

Turns out the problem lies with either the game or UE5. 95c is my lowest temp with the KLIM.

Other games run much cooler. Bethesda needs to hurry up and patch this game.

It doesn’t help they’re running BOTH Gamebryo and UE5 for Oblivion Remastered. They’re using Gamebryo for the physical gameplay and UE5 for the visuals. Gamebryo was last updated in 2012!

 

[Pew]

But will it run Crysis?

Does your stand have fans in it to blow air upwards towards the laptop? Those will help more as you can force more air into the various vents and both heatsinks.

 

[R18Civic]

But will it run Crysis?

Does your stand have fans in it to blow air upwards towards the laptop? Those will help more as you can force more air into the various vents and both heatsinks.

It's on a stand so it has room to suck in more air. If you read back in the thread I purchased a KLIM Tempest and it works well expect for on Oblivion Remastered. The game itself causes very high cpu temps.

 

[R18Civic]

But will it run Crysis?

Does your stand have fans in it to blow air upwards towards the laptop? Those will help more as you can force more air into the various vents and both heatsinks.

 

[Pew]

It's on a stand so it has room to suck in more air. If you read back in the thread I purchased a KLIM Tempest and it works well expect for on Oblivion Remastered. The game itself causes very high cpu temps.

I thought about getting one of those back when I had a gaming laptop but couldn't justify the reason over a stand with a fan. Plus the way it sticks out reminds me of when a friend thought my OBDII reader was the clutch pedal.

 

[R18Civic]

lol

 

[R18Civic]

I take that back, when running Oblivion Remastered at 60fps capped and giving KLIM Tempest about 5 minutes to do it's thing my CPU temps dropped to 75c. Good purchase.

 

[R18Civic]

Try something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08P8JCBB7?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_1&th=1

Thank you kind sir.

 

[Marcozi]

Thank you kind sir.

You're welcome.

 

[R18Civic]

I fixed all the issues by downloading throttle stop. Powermode is set to balanced and I have disabled turbo mode for the CPU.

I'm now gaming at 40-60c with no noticeable decrease in FPS.

 

[Merek]

As you found out using Turbo Boost significantly makes the CPU run way hot unless you have an abundant amount of cooling it's best to just leave that disabled. I don't know throttle stop but it sounds like what I was going to suggest. I have a server with Ryzen 9 5900x and the water cooler had failed, I haven't cleaned it out but evidently MSI had a recall and I was just outside of it so they wouldn't do anything for me but the coolant they used turned into this nasty brown sludge. I ordered a replacement cooler but in the meantime I used the Windows power settings and configured it to limit the minimum and maximum processor state for the CPU to throttle it down at the lowest speed, yes you can do it in the bios but working with a system remotely it was easier to just let Windows do it. I'd take a look inside the bios and see if you can limit the CPU temp.

My desktop I'm using i9-14900k and limit it to 80c, I know it can go higher than that but I'm not comfortable running that hot.

 

[Pew]

I fixed all the issues by downloading throttle stop. Powermode is set to balanced and I have disabled turbo mode for the CPU.

I'm now gaming at 40-60c with no noticeable decrease in FPS.

I forgot about turbo mode....I think I set the cpu power to 99% on the asus laptop I had to disable it.