Counterfeit Oil Filters, ebay
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RockyourGlock is a good place for glock parts. Or at least they were 3 years ago when I ordered from them.
Hate the name though.
Glockparts.com was another one I believe.
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Ebay is fine for buying car parts, but you must know or investigate the seller. "Partscontainer" is one legit autoparts distributor on Ebay that I have bought many Bosch, NGK and other oem/oes parts. Also, many factory car dealers run Ebay auctions or sales. I have bought BMW and Toyota factory parts from familiar dealers that sell on ebay at lower prices than their websites.
I got a bunch of the Champion filters from Rockauto when they were clearing them out. Not sure what the deal is with them but they have all been bad. Every one I have used blew oil out through the silicone base gasket, no matter how tight you make it. I'm guessing there is no flow. Often times, it is true that a good deal can be too good to be true.
They gotta be paying those guys pennies a day. At any first world labor rate, the automation is cheaper than paying actual people.
And then there is the disturbing way they are assembled. How many pleats of media you want? Depends on the guy with the scissors. And the glue...I hope he got enough on his fingers to hold it in place.
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Hello jetman.
Note to miserable pricks with nothing better to do than troll forums for opportunities to insult others. Disregard this post.
Brilliant, paying $80+ for a 6.7 oil filter.
I'd appreciate a direct message with the BITOG member ID of the gentleman who works with Motorcraft's oil filter manufacturing company. We must expose any low-life profiteers involved in counterfeit manufacturing and sales. No-doubt, short-term use of inferior fake oil filters will damage, and inevitably destroy a turbo-diesel engine over time.
I should've dove deeper before purchasing two-dozen Motorcraft FL-2124-S oil filters from eBay at $199/dozen. or $16.58 apiece. I did confirm that the aBay seller's listing photos were of authentic Motorcraft filters and boxes. Bait and switch... The eBay middleman's go-to counterfeit wholesaler's warehouse shipping staff opted to save time by shipping them in original Chinese knock-off factory box number 29 of 45. The 4"-square white label in Chinese language says; "Made In China", which screamed; "COUNTEFREIT!" Despite my detailed eBay Return Claim explanation of Patent & Copyright violations, and details regarding the faulty designs that lack the two crucial O-rings, silicone check valve integrity, and inauthentic filtration material, eBay has not pulled the listed, nor banned the seller. The title states: NEW 12pcs FL2124S OEM Ford Motorcraft Engine Oil Filters FL2051S BC3Z-6731B by eBay seller 39_m_power. https://www.ebay.com/itm/335424853457
Notable tell-tales of Chinese counterfeit Motorcraft oil filters include: Incorrect filter box data, subtel tell-tale pagination issues, and conflicting part number FL-2124S < (without 2nd dash though), but with conflicting FL-2051-S engineering designater BC3Z-6731B below, etc.. It should read FL-2124-S MU2Z-6731-C. The filter mounting plates do not have the two small etchings, nor silicone check valve diverter vanes seen through mount plate flow holes. These fake filters from China came shrink-wrapped as first image depicts, and each individual counterfeit Motorcraft filter box is sealed within a tight-fitting brown box. No-one has reported shrink-wrap, nor brown outer boxes on any authentic Motorcraft oil filters.
The final photo shows Motorcraft's two heavy o-rings within the central flow channel below the threads. Authentic Motorcraft FL-2124-S incorporates three threads, while counterfeits have five.
I discovered many eBay middleman Motorcraft counterfeit parts sellers who send half, or less of buyer payments to drop-shippers.
See ya.
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I’m not really sorry to have to say this, but if you know an item costs say “15x” as MSRP direct from the manufacturer, and is normally “10x” at legitimate retail channels, so why would anyone in their right mind trust a source that was selling said part at say “5x” or less? There’s simply no way to do this sustainably in business, and should therefore be an immediate red flag to anyone who values their equipment.
On top of that, this is a two-year-old thread for your first post on BITOG. Welcome to the world of necro-resurrection.
A counterfeit oil filter could be dangerous for the engine and cause catastrophic engine failure.
You can buy a Fram Extra Guard on Amazon for $3.50 with subscribe and save.
It has 95% efficiency @ > 20 microns.
No need to use Ebay and risk the counterfeits.
Indeed! And all I can to it is, Okaaaayyyyy...... Welcome to the world of necro-resurrection.
I've bought a few things from ebay and been satisfied. The last thing I remember buying, a mower deck scraper called the "Grass Buster" Lowest price I find, product exactly as described. Genuine. Good product btw. Never bought any oil filter ebay though. Now that I think about it, bought a Honda OEM Air Filter out of Cali. Good price, and confident it was genuine OEM.
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Thanks to all for replying.
The first and second from one forum's Resident Curmudgeon gave me wholesome laughter. "You people..."? Do tell! Hahaha...
Relevance! Shallow narcissists moan re: thread age. History Failures: Ratz Azzes, Hall Monitors, Forum Stooges, Devisionists. Proud sort.
My initial intent was to procure the Mototrcraft manufacturing BITOG ID from jetman, or anyone in tha know to eliminate the eBay con-artist. Figuring all 6.7 owners want to eliminate as many destructive parts sellers as possible.
Why not help others ID 6.7-destroying Chinese counterfeit Motorcraft oil filters with obvious packaging, visual box & filter tell-tales?
BE FOREWARNED! eBay's not the only hotbed. Beware of A'zon and other unethical resellers.
? Has anyone ever heard of counterfeit Motorcraft diesel or standard crankcase oils in the market ?
I'm one of many here born with that innate curiosity for all things mechanical, so I've been wrenching since age-6. I've bought deeply discounted genuine parts in bulk over my lifetime of spinning spanners. It's not unheard-of. I openly admitted to my bungling lack of research. I'd worked at dealerships decades ago, and had my own shop. So, I was naive to assume that Motorcraft vigilance prevented parts counterfeiting. Based on their price-points, they should be fighting for their consumers. Fat Chance. While I admire the Super Duper line, they're not my sole immersion. I'm guilty of bouncing between eclectic interests. My rhino skin never chafes while reading comically counterproductive posts from miserable sad-sacks. Soulless nitwits, trolling from quasi-obscure keyboard safety. Laughin'.
My first Super Duper diesel is a 2006 F-350 Lariat crew cab with Navistar's 6.0. Knowing of it's engineering flaws, I'd researched and resourced the best upgrade parts for maximum power and longevity on Super Duty forums. I dove deeply into design comparisons, reviews and write-ups before accumulating everything. I pulled (sans cab displacement) and completely rebuilt that 6.0 into a beast.
I've habitually stocked-up for the long haul, knowing that prices never go down, and quality generally wanes. After viewing U-tuber Ford Boss Me's side x side disections of Motorcraft's FL-2051-S vs FL-2124-S, I was game to acquire a couple-dozen upgraded 2124 with finer, weightier synthetic filtration, heavier tin cup, and more efficient silicone back-flow valve splitter-vanes. An extremely talented and knowledgeable Ford diesel technician recently recommended 6-month oil and filter change intervals for anyone using their FL-2051-S due to paper filtration media fragmentation. No insights, although my hankerin' for metal-reinforced synthetic media grew. Now contemplating bulk Donaldson, Wix, Purolator, and *Balwin <=> rated at 15-microns absolute. Boss's Baldwin tear-down pending.
I've sold and bought on eBay since 2002. The site's greed-inspired mismanagement has attracted predominantly underhanded pricks. Dishonest people desperate for cash, and dirty reseller middle-men lacking funds are most-likely to exploit opportunity. where no repercussions enforcement exists. Despite tangible proof of ne'er-do-wells, greedy eBay upper crusties intentionally allow criminal knock-off resellers to post authentic merchandise, in lieu of drop-shipping counterfeits from criminal importer warehouses. eBay has also illegally superimposed eBay_Commerce over all PyPl data, obscuring merchant data. Their taxation of shipping is also a crime.
To eBay's narrow upside: I've procured several very rare Japanese turbochargers for my bikes. Vintage vehicle parts require pre-purchase authentication. I also messaged a guy who deeply discounted a bulk purchase of Kershaw Tanto Blur knives I bought and gifted to aging fellow-veteran friends for Christmas. Their Blurs are matched by none-other in single-handed efficiency for tasks and self-defense. Kershaw even provides a printout proving legal blade deployment design to prevent law enforcement confiscation. I also bought long-tube valves to dispense Fluid Film deep into a chassis. The list goes on, and on. But it's no-doubt important to choose wisely. PyPl is a fair backup, although lost finite time dealing with unbeknownst con-artists is the costliest consequence.
I hope it's a good weekend so-far.
See ya.
The first and second from one forum's Resident Curmudgeon gave me wholesome laughter. "You people..."? Do tell! Hahaha...
Relevance! Shallow narcissists moan re: thread age. History Failures: Ratz Azzes, Hall Monitors, Forum Stooges, Devisionists. Proud sort.
My initial intent was to procure the Mototrcraft manufacturing BITOG ID from jetman, or anyone in tha know to eliminate the eBay con-artist. Figuring all 6.7 owners want to eliminate as many destructive parts sellers as possible.
Why not help others ID 6.7-destroying Chinese counterfeit Motorcraft oil filters with obvious packaging, visual box & filter tell-tales?
BE FOREWARNED! eBay's not the only hotbed. Beware of A'zon and other unethical resellers.
? Has anyone ever heard of counterfeit Motorcraft diesel or standard crankcase oils in the market ?
I'm one of many here born with that innate curiosity for all things mechanical, so I've been wrenching since age-6. I've bought deeply discounted genuine parts in bulk over my lifetime of spinning spanners. It's not unheard-of. I openly admitted to my bungling lack of research. I'd worked at dealerships decades ago, and had my own shop. So, I was naive to assume that Motorcraft vigilance prevented parts counterfeiting. Based on their price-points, they should be fighting for their consumers. Fat Chance. While I admire the Super Duper line, they're not my sole immersion. I'm guilty of bouncing between eclectic interests. My rhino skin never chafes while reading comically counterproductive posts from miserable sad-sacks. Soulless nitwits, trolling from quasi-obscure keyboard safety. Laughin'.
My first Super Duper diesel is a 2006 F-350 Lariat crew cab with Navistar's 6.0. Knowing of it's engineering flaws, I'd researched and resourced the best upgrade parts for maximum power and longevity on Super Duty forums. I dove deeply into design comparisons, reviews and write-ups before accumulating everything. I pulled (sans cab displacement) and completely rebuilt that 6.0 into a beast.
I've habitually stocked-up for the long haul, knowing that prices never go down, and quality generally wanes. After viewing U-tuber Ford Boss Me's side x side disections of Motorcraft's FL-2051-S vs FL-2124-S, I was game to acquire a couple-dozen upgraded 2124 with finer, weightier synthetic filtration, heavier tin cup, and more efficient silicone back-flow valve splitter-vanes. An extremely talented and knowledgeable Ford diesel technician recently recommended 6-month oil and filter change intervals for anyone using their FL-2051-S due to paper filtration media fragmentation. No insights, although my hankerin' for metal-reinforced synthetic media grew. Now contemplating bulk Donaldson, Wix, Purolator, and *Balwin <=> rated at 15-microns absolute. Boss's Baldwin tear-down pending.
I've sold and bought on eBay since 2002. The site's greed-inspired mismanagement has attracted predominantly underhanded pricks. Dishonest people desperate for cash, and dirty reseller middle-men lacking funds are most-likely to exploit opportunity. where no repercussions enforcement exists. Despite tangible proof of ne'er-do-wells, greedy eBay upper crusties intentionally allow criminal knock-off resellers to post authentic merchandise, in lieu of drop-shipping counterfeits from criminal importer warehouses. eBay has also illegally superimposed eBay_Commerce over all PyPl data, obscuring merchant data. Their taxation of shipping is also a crime.
To eBay's narrow upside: I've procured several very rare Japanese turbochargers for my bikes. Vintage vehicle parts require pre-purchase authentication. I also messaged a guy who deeply discounted a bulk purchase of Kershaw Tanto Blur knives I bought and gifted to aging fellow-veteran friends for Christmas. Their Blurs are matched by none-other in single-handed efficiency for tasks and self-defense. Kershaw even provides a printout proving legal blade deployment design to prevent law enforcement confiscation. I also bought long-tube valves to dispense Fluid Film deep into a chassis. The list goes on, and on. But it's no-doubt important to choose wisely. PyPl is a fair backup, although lost finite time dealing with unbeknownst con-artists is the costliest consequence.
I hope it's a good weekend so-far.
See ya.
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Hi.
You probably worked hard for your money too. So, unless you're nonchalant about things, and willing to 'be had' by a $tranger, you'll want to expedite parts authentication without delay. It also depends on which specific parts you purchased. If it's small internal parts, and not a barrel, clip, or major/significant component, there may not be Glock markings. Firearm parts failure can be serious, or even finite. If you cannot authenticate manufacturing by Glock through online research for factory markings, consider taking them to a reputable gunsmith before your 18-day eBay Claim Filing deadline passes. If they are definitely counterfeit parts, and you file a Claim, select 'Not As Described', explain unwavering facts, and attach one or more images, even if they are from the listing. Request that the Seller issues an RMA and printable return shipping label. The only thing you lose is your time. We all live and learn. Be aware that paying via PyPl acts as a secondary backup claim option with a longer filing deadline of 30 days from date of tracking delivery. The reason being; You received a counterfeit version of the item. eBay is down-right dirty, and always changing policies, where-as PyPl will work with you respectfully on legitimate claims.
eBay is not all bad. I bought two authentic Samurai swords which were confiscated by our troops post-surrender. My British friend who lives in Japan authenticated the notorious Japanese makers marks on the tangs before I went forward. Japanese WWII officers and soldiers were known to have carried their sometimes generations-old ancestral blades into battle within mandated military handles and scabbards. The blades are both extremely valuable due to the renowned makers and ages. I've had many other successful purchases. I won't be buying Motorcraft parts there.
I appreciate someone's recommendation of the Fram Extra-Guard oil filters with auto-delivery for the 6.7 turbo-diesel. I will never give a CC account number to any company for auto-delivery, as cancellation is a long and dark road. I have also seen multiple negative reports on Fram oil filter construction and performance. Donaldson, Purolator, Wix, Baldwin and other oil filters for the 6.7 are far-safer options based upon disection comparisons, and at justified prices. The Scorpion is one costly lump to replace, even if you spin the spanners.
eBay can be a great source, if you're knowledgeable about the item your considering, and perform adequate research. It's also vital to invest time in reading seller feedback, both positive and especially negative if posted. When it involves anything with expiration dates, it's best avoided since most items are 2nd-hand, having no history of storage environments. Motorcraft oil filters? Obviously A Big No!
Best of luck, which we must usually make for ourselves.
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I'm of no help for Motorcraft problems.
My counterfeit oil filter problem was with a counterfeit Fleetguard oil filter ebay seller.
I noticed an active Fleetguard company rep here on BITOG. I contacted him via private messaging and we handled things.
This was my first and only bad experience on ebay.
I also purchased (2018) counterfeit AC spark plugs on Amzn.
I continue to purchase from both but try to be more discerning/discriminating and haven't had any problem(s) since.
