Cordless Tool Batteries

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I am looking for some cordless woodworking tools for a small rehab project, they will only be used for this job and some occasional work.
I mostly have Dewalt, Bosch and Makita (I don't buy red tools at any price). Hercules is looking solid and the batteries are the most reasonable. I was watching this video, the results are surprising.

 
I'm firmly team ketchup and recommend them for anything you'll use more than once.

And sometimes for things you'll only use once.
Questionable quality and seriously over priced according to people that repair them. If the tools had TTI instead of Milwaukee on them they would not sell anywhere near as well. These have nothing in comparison to real Milwaukee tools that were world class before they bought the name. To each their own but not my money, Makita would be my choice if I wanted them for more than I need them for.
These must be cordless because the apartment I am rehabing only has one circuit for the lights and no working plugs yet, otherwise I have all these tools corded.
 
I beat on yellow junk daily 20V no real complaints

I use 12V red junk a lot more lately smaller and strong enough

Harry Fright looks decent frankly

That said in my lifetime I’ve had more issues with corded stuff than cordless. Red 1/2” industrial drill died way early and Milwaukee would not provide warranty support and yellow thickness planer they left assembly material inside the machine I found after some use!
 
We use Milwaukee where I work. Literally hundreds of drill motors, nut drivers and similar, and they have served us great.

I recently bought myself an upper end drill motor version, that came with two batteries, and I've beat on it hard with excellent results. Bought an angle grinder, which uses the same batteries, and it died after minimal usage. Milwaukee provided a prepaid 2 day Fedex label to send it off, and it came back pretty quickly. Maybe two weeks total time. It shouldn't have failed, but at least they stand behind their products.
 
Questionable quality and seriously over priced according to people that repair them. If the tools had TTI instead of Milwaukee on them they would not sell anywhere near as well. These have nothing in comparison to real Milwaukee tools that were world class before they bought the name. To each their own but not my money, Makita would be my choice if I wanted them for more than I need them for.
These must be cordless because the apartment I am rehabing only has one circuit for the lights and no working plugs yet, otherwise I have all these tools corded.
I hear ya, but the only tool I've had issues with was the Insider. They repaired it twice and when it still didn't work for my use case and I reached out to the customer service department I got a call from a Wisconsin number.

After a conversation with someone genuinely interested in what I was using their tool for and why it wasn't working how I needed it to, he sent me both extended reach ratchets with a 2.5 battery for each.
 
Milwaukee has a significant presence in China. Nuff said, at least for me. I talk with my money.
Most of power tool makers do but Milwaukee is Chinese owned and operated
We use Milwaukee where I work. Literally hundreds of drill motors, nut drivers and similar, and they have served us great.

I recently bought myself an upper end drill motor version, that came with two batteries, and I've beat on it hard with excellent results. Bought an angle grinder, which uses the same batteries, and it died after minimal usage. Milwaukee provided a prepaid 2 day Fedex label to send it off, and it came back pretty quickly. Maybe two weeks total time. It shouldn't have failed, but at least they stand behind their products.
Milwaukee cordless angle grinders are notorious for bad power control boards as are their drills for some of the worst chucks in the industry among other things.
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...Makita would be my choice if I wanted them for more than I need them for...
I know what you mean. I have a Makita impact driver that I use quite a bit lately and I love that thing, and I have a Makita high torque 1/2" impact wrench that I may never have a legitimate need for....but I have it. FWIW, the impact driver was made in China but the impact wrench says "Assembled in USA" on the tag. Then I have a Makita blower that was made in Romania of all places.
 
Red Tools?
Meh, I might try one here and there. Say what you want. For the money they work just fine for me.

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Questionable quality and seriously over priced according to people that repair them. If the tools had TTI instead of Milwaukee on them they would not sell anywhere near as well. These have nothing in comparison to real Milwaukee tools that were world class before they bought the name. To each their own but not my money, Makita would be my choice if I wanted them for more than I need them for.
These must be cordless because the apartment I am rehabing only has one circuit for the lights and no working plugs yet, otherwise I have all these tools corded.

Agreed totally not the same thing as the original.
Ive never been happy with the name acquisition.

The local shop keeps segregated trash cans full of negative value tools and the red one is the most full.

I like using the Milwaukee stuff, but I dont want to live with it and go teal myself.

They make some plumbing tools I cant get from Makita so someday I'll cave in on on their battery format
 
Red Tools?
Meh, I might try one here and there. Say what you want. For the money they work just fine for me.

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I really hope your platform and tools work out for you.

Im super interested in how it goes after 3,5 7 , 9 or more seasons and how parts actually work and who fixes them, or at what point do you just throw them away because they cost more to fix than to buy new.

Your stuff looks new and the 2 or 3 things that have been, are pretty lightly used at this point.

I'm watching to see how all the stuff on the market does across all disciplines compares to my Makita product some of which is still productive after 3 decades.

After multiple houses, decks, garages, and other, my stuff shows wear but isnt close to being worn out..
I got my money back out of these things 10X easily.

I've now got more hours on My Makita trimmer than my Stihl FS70 trimmer on a 1.5 acre plot.

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I really hope your platform and tools work out for you.

Im super interested in how it goes after 3,5 7 , 9 or more seasons and how parts actually work and who fixes them, or at what point do you just throw them away because they cost more to fix than to buy new.

Your stuff looks new and the 2 or 3 things that have been, are pretty lightly used at this point.

I'm watching to see how all the stuff on the market does across all disciplines compares to my Makita product some of which is still productive after 3 decades.

After multiple houses, decks, garages, and other, my stuff shows wear but isnt close to being worn out..
I got my money back out of these things 10X easily.

I've now got more hours on My Makita trimmer than my Stihl FS70 trimmer on a 1.5 acre plot.

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I completely understand your point.
I use my tools heavily. Daily. For automotive repairs, painting and farm chores. I do all my own carpentry, plumbing, electrical, painting etc. I cover my battery powered tools with fitted clear plastic bags when working on engines and grease.
But it's still private use and I'm the only one using them.

I use 2 stroke gas powered lawn tools a good bit too.

I understand cheap chinese tools are just that. So I use them accordingly. Electronics is my hobby. So I understand what destroys battery tools and handle them accordingly. Example...if I'm pulling a motor from a vehicle and using my battery socket driver, if it gets warm I'll grab the other and let the first cool down. I have two of many of the commonly used tools for that reason.

It's also likely your top tier battery tools were also made in China.

Another thing I like about HF tools is that they are pretty good about having replacement parts available. Sometimes you have to order the part and wait so on some tools I'll order the part or parts I feel will need replacing first and have it on hand.
I use the hell out of their orbital 6 inch sander when I'm painting a vehicle. But they're only $24.95 and I'm getting my moneys worth.

Observation....some of their Bauer tools are the same internals as their Hercules Premium brand. I also have some of their Hercules 20v tools. Their 20v tools really aren't bad. The Bauer and Hercules drills are stout.

Internally what separates the top tier from the cheap tools is the plastics used, the metals used and their plating process, motor windings (wire gauge and copper or aluminum for example) and of course, design. Top tier usually are better in all these categories.
But care for the tools and how they are handled can make a big difference too.

That said, spending a lot more does not always equate to getting something worth that difference.

If you're using your tools professionally in a business I would def go top tier.
I'll let you know if and when they fail if it's not just worn out brushes.
Just my 2 cents.
 
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I recently had a massive struggle finding a decent quality battery for my Makita 12V drill motor, and a Dewalt 18V hammer drill. OEM brand batteries costs more than a new drill/battery/charger kit, and the aftermarket battery market is a snake den filled with garbage quality china junk. Makita 12V and DeWalt 18V seem to be obsolete platforms, so no doubt that contributed to the problem.

Fortunately, the voltage race seems to have stabilized to some extent, so the battery platforms are more stable.

I'd be hesitant to get in bed with some store brand tool set, like Harbor Freight, because you have no idea how long battery support will last.
 
I recently had a massive struggle finding a decent quality battery for my Makita 12V drill motor, and a Dewalt 18V hammer drill. OEM brand batteries costs more than a new drill/battery/charger kit, and the aftermarket battery market is a snake den filled with garbage quality china junk. Makita 12V and DeWalt 18V seem to be obsolete platforms, so no doubt that contributed to the problem.

Fortunately, the voltage race seems to have stabilized to some extent, so the battery platforms are more stable.

I'd be hesitant to get in bed with some store brand tool set, like Harbor Freight, because you have no idea how long battery support will last.
You can buy the adapter thingie for the DW and use 20V batteries, and maybe just switch to 20V and use your olde drill too
 
I don't think there will be any more problems than with other brands. Makita is doing their best to slowly but surely drop the 18v line.
 
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