coolant filters for passenger cars?

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Years ago I ran a Perry coolant filter on a car. It's a spin on filter that is put in parallel with the heater core. It has a filter, chemicals and an anode disk. I drove the car, a 79 Scirocco for 10 years 200k miles and the cooling system always looked like brand new inside. I never changed the coolant, just the filter and some make up distilled water. Are thse just not cost effective for passenger cars?
 
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Years ago I ran a Perry coolant filter on a car. It's a spin on filter that is put in parallel with the heater core. It has a filter, chemicals and an anode disk. I drove the car, a 79 Scirocco for 10 years 200k miles and the cooling system always looked like brand new inside. I never changed the coolant, just the filter and some make up distilled water. Are thse just not cost effective for passenger cars?

That's part of it. In trucks you have to test the Ph, etc, etc, and it's just not cost effective.

The other issue is that the chemical packs in the filters aren't compatible with the bulk of the current antifreeze coolants, which are all OAT or HOAT these days.

So, you need to get filters without additive packs in them, which really gets close to making the filter irrelevant.


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Mickey. I have been considering adding a coolant filter just to trap any particles that might be circulating in the cooling system. Would this be a worthwhile exercise?
 
I want one that installs atop the hood so you can observe the process. Utilize clear plastic components so all the nifty goings-on are bared for the eye to follow.

Great fun!!!!!!!

And, a mighty fine conversation item.

Also, by showing the world that you care about your components, assemblies, systems, etc. the resale value of your conveyance would surely soar to lofty heights.

Where can I get one?
 
Your clear plastic filter housing could have plastic glow balls to show movement and specific gravity.

And you could sing your song...

I don't care at night, if the snow falls,
'cause I've got my plastic glow balls,
Sittin on the dashboard of my car.
 
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I have been considering adding a coolant filter just to trap any particles that might be circulating in the cooling system. Would this be a worthwhile exercise?

What's it cost for the filter and plumbing versus just replacing the coolant?


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Originally posted by LarryL:
Years ago I ran a Perry coolant filter on a car. It's a spin on filter that is put in parallel with the heater core. It has a filter, chemicals and an anode disk. I drove the car, a 79 Scirocco for 10 years 200k miles and the cooling system always looked like brand new inside. I never changed the coolant, just the filter and some make up distilled water. Are thse just not cost effective for passenger cars?

Larry,

I installed a Baldwin B5134 Coolant Filter on my 03 Chevy Duramax Diesel and it keeps coolant (DEXCOOL) crystal clear. (See Coolant Filters ?). The B5134 is not the SCA (Supplemental Coolant Additive) type so it needs to be changed annually. I drain the system, change the filter, and refill with a 50/50 mix of DexCool and distilled water. Baldwin also makes an extended change model that can go longer between changes. I’m currently on my third filter and each of the two previous filters contained a significant amount of black scale. The first one also contained what looked like sand.

Yesterday I flushed the cooling system in my 04 Impala with a 3.4L V6. It took 5 drain & refills with distilled water to get the coolant running clear. The first drain was somewhat cloudy and contained about a ¼ teaspoon full of (casting) sand and scale. I refilled with fresh DexCool but after seeing the sand, I’m thinking I might add a coolant filter – if I can find a place to mount it that is.

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Couldn't you use a remote spin on filter housing designed for remote oil filters? I believe I've seen spin on coolant filters made by Baldwin.

My thought would be to install in the inlet hose to the heater core. This way you're not interrupting a critical system, and should the filter clog (absent a bypass) you'll know it right away because you'll get no heat out of your heater.

Does this sound like a good idea to anyone?
 
The heater hose is a good place to mount the coolant filter. Coolant filters have a odd thread, I think it is 11/16 in. I doubt you are going to find a oil fiter head with this thread.
Baldwin does have a coolant filter head CFB5000. You can order one thru Grainger, I paid Cdn $43 for it , it will be about $30 in the US. The B5134 filter mounts on this head.
 
When I considered adding a coolant filter to my 03 Duramax I called the Baldwin Tech line and they recommended the following coolant filters and Filter base:

B5134 , Filter
B5088 , Filter, Long Life (change less frequently than the B5134)
CFB5000 , Coolant Filter Base

I went with the B5134 and the CFB5000 base.. purchased from www.westfleet.com. IIRC, the filters were about $5-6 each and the base was less than $25. Greg at www.lubespecialist.com also sells a kit for the Duramax but he would most likely provide just the base and filter.

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Originally posted by chenobylite:
So should one of these go in series with the heater core or across it? Are they full flow?

I plumbed mine as a bypass with tees in the heater inlet and outlet hoses.. I don't beleive the B5134 is intended to be used in-line ... inlet/outlet fittings on the CFB5000 base are 3/8 NPT..

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Thanks Bill. Will the B5134 fit a standard mount? I know the thread is different but I can simply machine up an adaptor. Would you happen to know the distance measured across the gasket of the filter?
The ouside diameter of it?
 
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Originally posted by chenobylite:
... Will the B5134 fit a standard mount? I know the thread is different but I can simply machine up an adaptor. Would you happen to know the distance measured across the gasket of the filter?
The ouside diameter of it?


chenobylite,

Not sure about a standard mount but I did a quick measurement of a spare filter using a ruler and the gasket OD looks like 2 & 13/16". I also noticed there is a restriction hole in the inlet (aprox 1/8") so the B5134 is definitely not intended to be a full flow filter…

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Thanks Bill! 2 and 13/16" is indeed the same as everything I use, both full flow and bypass. All that is needed is a cheapie mount and to machine a 3/4 to 11/16 adapter.

Since I have that capability right here at home you've saved me a Chunk 'O Cash if I decide to filter my coolant. And thanks for the tip on the filter being restricted, now I know what my plumbing will need to be. Much obliged, useful information that wasn't asked for is always a nice touch
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Can somebody answer Jim 5's question? Is it just as effective(or possible) to use a remote mount oil filter base and oil filter plumbed into the inlet heater hose and out to the outlet heater hose and use this as your coolant filter? Thanks.
 
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