Conversation with a Las Vegas cab driver

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After hurtling around Vegas the last few day in some fairly beat up taxis, I asked one of the driver's about his cab.

Over 300K on his Chrysler mini van, like all the Vegas cabs the suspension seemed prety shot judging by the movement and squeaks. I didn't ask which oil, which interval, and he didn't know if the engines get overhauled in order to reach 300K + to 500K.

But I thought about the engines making it to 300K and quite a few to 500K with lots of full throttle driving around a city with a good mix of short highway sections and congested roads and idling while in the taxi line.

The cabbie's main comment was that he thought the Chrysler mini vans were good because they never overheat or run hot.... kind of important in a town the reaches 115 F quite often and where the AC is always running.

I'm sure the fact that the engines are running close to 24 hours a day can help to reduce wear, at least startup wear. And the city is hot and dry so moist air, one of the components to cause sludge is not a factor.

And there are no hills, so the cabs drive around an essentially flat city.

And presumably the cabs get some sort of regular maintenance program.

But still I was impressed that the taxis were racking up that kind of mileage.

I know that there have been taxi test on oil and engine wear, including in Las Vegas....but certainly researching Vegas cab operation could show just how good modern oils and modern engines are.

I'd be curious to learn more about the driveline maintence of these vehicles. It seems that they don't put a lot of effort or money into the suspension and tires.

But maybe the engine, cooling system, AC, transmission, axle, and brake maintenance might be interesting.
 
I'm sure the people who think premium synthetics are needed will be cheered up by this post....I doubt that these cabs run on anything other than the best buy per case or barrel oil.
 
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They run Mobil Clean 5000.. At least that's what EOM tested their conventional oil in (LV cabs)




That's kinda playing on our perception of heat being the killer in terms of wear ..or oil fatigue. Any cab fleet is going to do well ..otherwise they wouldn't be a viable cab fleet. Obviously taxi service isn't nearly as hard on oil as we're led to believe. Try the NJ Turnpike State Police if you want to see if an oil can alter the longevity of an engine. That is, the wear isn't as important as how well the oil holds up in service. The engine are always on the good side of the wear profile in terms of warm up/start up wear ..hence it's down to deposit control and changing it out often enough. As long as there are no fuel or coolant issues ...what's going to stop 6k OCI's in juat about any environment??
 
I had a ride in a Memphis cab, Chevy Astro van with almost 300k on it and it looked pretty good. It was the guy's own ride and he said he changed the oil every two weeks, between 3000 and 5000 miles depending.
Another time I had a cab in Memphis (I go there a lot for biz), old Chevy Caprice ex-cop car with over 400k and it looked every bit of it.
 
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The engine are always on the good side of the wear profile in terms of warm up/start up wear...hence it's down to deposit control and changing it out often enough.




Cold Startup wear...where have I heard about that before?
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I didn't ask which oil, which interval, and he didn't know if the engines get overhauled in order to reach 300K + to 500K.




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You should ALWAYS ask what brand of oil and what the OCI is?
 
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I didn't ask which oil, which interval, and he didn't know if the engines get overhauled in order to reach 300K + to 500K.




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You should ALWAYS ask what brand of oil and what the OCI is?




Most of the cab drivers were African so communication less than ideal, and I didn't get the sense that any of them were involved with the maintenance or would know much about the maintenance, or whether engines had been overhauled....so forget about the oil brand, viscosity, or OCI.

I also spoke to a Las Vegas motorcylcle cop, and he told me they have the largest all Harley fleet at 160 bikes. It sounded like the bikes were 06 and 07 models. The bikes get pipes, and jetted, and run Harley oil.

He said the biggest problem they have is engines overheating, and high oil temps....but the 4 fleet mechanics are limited by the Harley warranty requirements so the oil cooler is stock Harley.
 
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