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Construction contractor on Zoom call was constantly spitting chewing tobacco into empty coffee cup
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I always feel anytime you're dealing with a workplace environment, a certain decorum should be followed. I feel it's just all about professionalism and respect. If you show a high level of professionalism, people will take you more seriously. For instance, anytime I interact with my boss I always say "yes sir, no sir". I never say "yeah" or "uh huh".
I would treat a zoom meeting as serious as an in-person meeting. Once you behave like your either unprofessional or uneducated, you will lose that level respect among your colleagues.
I would treat a zoom meeting as serious as an in-person meeting. Once you behave like your either unprofessional or uneducated, you will lose that level respect among your colleagues.
Therein probably is why it is tolerated. Got enough clout to get by with it. There is policy, and there is power.
Normally if someone is on Video call disturbing the audio you ask them to mute. The same can be done with the Video feed click mute the camera off. If doing on a phone you sometimes don't realize the video is going.I was on a Zoom conference call for a big construction project going on and I noticed one of the main construction contractors was constantly spitting his chewing tobacco into an empty coffee cup for everyone to see.
I know the habit is difficult to kick, but he couldn’t hold off for an hour and not spit into cup.... ?
He looked very unprofessional.....
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You don't understand the purpose of a meeting which is fine.
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im on the toilet right now typing this.
Then you'd love China. When I was there in 2008, people were snorting hawking, hacking, and spitting constantly as they walked down the sidewalks. I mean constantly. One of the most gross things I've seen and I'm not one that gets too disturbed by gross things.
But are all your first grade fellow students and your teacher watching and listening?
I've heard they're trying to cut down on that.
I agree to a certain extend, except the standard of professionalism and respect are different depends on where and when. Doing that for others is one thing but expect from others is not right, IMO.
If I hire a technician to work in the lab and loop him / her in for a meeting then I do not expect him or her to speak like a CEO and dress like one, I will just get some answer and let him or her back to do his or her stuff. I am not hiring her to burden her for these little details. I do not expect him or her to enjoy meeting to begin with and want to torture him or her for that.
Construction people would probably not be the kind who enjoy sitting in on meeting dressed up and looking at TPS reports, their standard of professionalism is to get a building done in quality, in budget, and on time. They are not there to entertain people.
The older generation, less educated crowd does that a lot, across the world (even in rural Virginia when I spent a year there). Hong Kong used to be like that before the 80s, then people get better educated and end up in more white collar jobs, and that kind of stopped, and now they can't stand visitors from 3rd world or less educated mainland China (not all are like that in China) doing that.
I visited in 2009 and then again in 2012, and in 3 years they have changed a lot after they started hiring a janitor on every block on the street with new office / apartment development. With those massive surveillance network they put in and "social credit" score to discourage littering, jay walking, spitting, etc. This kind of behavior would probably change very quickly (along with other political related behaviors, of course).
While spitting dip is disgusting, it could've been worse. You could've been on a Zoom call with Jeffrey Toobin...
+ 100000 %
Especially if in a business setting.
I’m not questioning the guy’s abilities or knowledge, they hired this contractor because of the quality of work and they are one of many contractors on this project.
Entire project is around $180M.
My camera is never on unless needed. You can look at an image from my trip to Italy in 2012...
So is he paid extra hours on the zoom call? Any extra to have him turn on the camera? I really don't get why people insist on turning on the camera unless it is for a presentation. To me if I am turning on a video you better be showing some data or numbers or logs on the screen instead of your beautiful office or trophy shelves and awards on the wall.
A lot of nuance in communication especially in meetings is picked up in facial expressions. Been using Google Hangout then Meet with a Tech company since 2014 and working remotely since September 12, 2001 using every tool possible including Skype, NetMeeting, IBM SameTime. The video part was a game changer IMHO.
I actually try to keep my camera on, mostly to keep me accountable. It was too easy to multi-task before, sending emails while in meetings, and otherwise not paying attention, now it's just all the easier since we're not face-to-face.
We have a team call on Mondays. I'm certainly multitasking when the AL, LA, MS and AR teams are going through their stuff. Probably doing my time card or other administrivia I need to get done. I don't really need to hear all the details of what Exadatas are going into Wal*Mart this week unless I'm going to AR to do some of the install work.
When we get to STL/Southern IL, I give my full attention. It's just a smart use of my time.
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