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Hi everyone. I have been scavenging good wood from broken skids at work and I have collected enough to build a composter. I want a composter to cut down on the amount of garbage I send to the landfill and to use the compost in my vegetable garden. I have a few questions if anyone knows anything about composting. First of all, will a composter attract the local wildlife? I already have squirrel and raccoon troubles. Secondly, should I put a lid on my composter or should I leave it open and exposed to sunlight? Finally, I have heard that you need to have lots of air flow through the sides but won't all of my compost work its way out the gaps in the sides? Any help is appreciated.
 
I am the king of compost.

1) Place your composter where you can p on it comfortably.
2) See #1 above, but generally I never had a problem with critters, and it always seems like there are critters around the places I have lived.
3) Sun is fine, but you don't want rain on it all the time. Rinses all the goodness out and too wet and cold does not get going real good. See #1 above.
4) I've used chicken wire, wood, plastic with holes, must everything. You don't need too huge of holes to work fine, and still get air.

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Good luck.
 
Our town wona grant because of its level of recycling, and with the award, bought everyone a composter (small town, not a big grant).

So we have a composter, before that we were just burying vegetable scraps in the garden, and throwing seeds out there to see what volunteers we woudl get. Worked fine.

Keys are - no animal products whatsoever. Except egg shells. Need a good mixture of green to brown components. All green, wet scraps and it wont work too well, ditto if its all dry leaves. Need a mix. Sawdust and untreated lumber can be good stocks.

Need heat, but not too much (a lot will come naturally), water (again, not too much), and some air, so turning over the heap can be useful. Worms will get in and out, but they can help too.

Check out some of the forums out there, they will give worlds more info than I can give you. Maybe there are some master com posters on here??!?!

JMH
 
Was going to post a compost thread myself, having made a really nice batch that I used yesterday.

I've got one of those tumble barrels, but it's too cold here, so the cheap tapered barrel type works well. All kitchen scraps (not meat), egg shells, lawn clippings when it's getting too dry (I use a mulching mower, but will collect clippinmgs for the compost as needed). Prunings, cut into 2-3" lengths, shredded paper if it needs it (worms LOVE corrogated cardboard).

FIL uses timber pallets, lined with chicken wire, so they end up cubed. Has three bays...one filling, one emptying, and one composting.

He seems to get a good balance with all of his lawn clippings, interspested with lots of plant prunings, left quite long, and cut with a spade part way through the composting.
 
I started out with a commercially made composting bin, plastic/rubber, about 3 feet, cubed. Outgrew that in a hurry, now just compost in a free standing heap.

I agree with the previous assessments. My biggest problem is I don't have enough nitrogen components (fruit and veggie scraps, grass clippings) to match the humongus amounts of leaves (carbon) I collect. I have taken to buying bags of manure to get mass nitrogen.

In our climate the other problem is keeping it moist enough. During the summer I water it every day, every other day at least. I turn it twice a week, more often is counterproductive. You want to get the moisture into the center, but if you have a predominance of leaves they act as shingles, so on the days I turn I water first, then turn, then water again. If possible, try to spread the compost which has started to generate amongst the inactivated sections to get them started.

About prunings - my experience is that branches with any measurable diameter will prevent you from turning that part of the pile, so that part will never get going.
 
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
1) Place your composter where you can p on it comfortably.

LOL...glad I'm not the only one.
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Haven't graduated to that. I believe that it can be efficacious and safe, but I don't wanna mess wid dat sheet.
 
I'm not talking about #2 here, just #1. Confirmed organic method of stimulating your heap. If just one, maybe two at max "doses" don't light it off, see the thread about drinking too much water.

Some good ideas here. Three bins IS the way to go if you are serious about this, but one can be made to "work".
 
Originally Posted By: TooManyWheels
I started out with a commercially made composting bin, plastic/rubber, about 3 feet, cubed. Outgrew that in a hurry, now just compost in a free standing heap.

I agree with the previous assessments. My biggest problem is I don't have enough nitrogen components (fruit and veggie scraps, grass clippings) to match the humongus amounts of leaves (carbon) I collect. I have taken to buying bags of manure to get mass nitrogen.

In our climate the other problem is keeping it moist enough. During the summer I water it every day, every other day at least. I turn it twice a week, more often is counterproductive. You want to get the moisture into the

center, but if you have a predominance of leaves they act as shingles, so on the days I turn I water first, then turn, then water again. If possible, try to spread the compost which has started to generate amongst the inactivated sections to get them started.

About prunings - my experience is that branches with any measurable diameter will prevent you from turning that part of the pile, so that part will never get going.


I pretty much agree with TooManyWheels. I have similar problems with not enough green stuff and not enough water.

I have 2 bins, ~5 cu. yards each. 8'L X 6' W X 4' high. They are made mostly out of used treated 2x4 lumber. I run everything through my chipper/shredder. I empty one bin during the year while filling the other. I water the fresh grindings until wet, but not soggy. I do my best to mix green and brown
while shredding. I get about 3 cu. yds. of finished compost in the spring which goes directly on top of the garden. I don't turn the pile, just too much work for the old man.

If you turn the pile and keep the water, nitrogen & carbon in balance, you can make finished compost in 6-8 weeks in hot weather, longer in cooler climes. My pile dried out due to the hot dry weather last summer, so about the top foot of shreddings will go back through the shredder, mixed with new stuff and into the empty bin.
 
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Our family has composted for decades. We don't fuss with any container. It's just a pile in the backyard, strategically hidden out of view behind landscape bushes. A coupe times a year I turn the pile and add water. In a year it turns to wonderful food for the plants or grass.

The only wildlife it attracts is my dog, who seems to find good stuff in the pile.
 
I compost in a pile or in plastic garbage bags. I think the whole 'composting' has gone out of hand with tools, devices, potions and stuff. Just pile the plant remains and let the nature take care of it. I've even seen earth worms being sold for composting. If you pile it on the ground, the earth worms will find their way into the compost and work on it.

Don't compost meats, etc and you won't attract critters.
 
I started with a plastic 55 gal barrel that I cut the lid off of. I stuffed leaves in it and was going to advance to adding our garbage. Wife didn't like it. Move forward a decade or two and we just pile the stuff on the garden in the off seasons and I turn it when possible and cover it before the frost. Some stuff takes longer than others to fully decay. We let all the tomato vines decay in place ..etc..etc. It all gets reduced eventually
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Originally Posted By: Kestas
Our family has composted for decades. We don't fuss with any container. It's just a pile in the backyard, strategically hidden out of view behind landscape bushes. A coupe times a year I turn the pile and add water. In a year it turns to wonderful food for the plants or grass.

The only wildlife it attracts is my dog, who seems to find good stuff in the pile.


Yup. That works. did that for many years.

The reason for my large bins is that I have a large area with lots of landscaping, that has to be maintained, and lots of trees with lots of leaves. No yard waste leaves here, it all goes back to the ground. From time to time tree trimming crews come by and I get 3-4 loads of free wood chips I use for mulch. I also have a small grove of 50' high white pines, that provide lots of pine straw for the flower beds..
 
Lots of good info. Thanks everyone. I looked around on the net somewhat but most websites seemed to deal with composting techniques and complicated formulas, not the basics. I have mostly leaves to compost but I'll do my best to find greens to go with them.
 
I've never bothered to read the complicated stuff on composting. Nature seems to do a good job of it.

The basics?... put it all in a pile, turn it once in a while, add water when it gets dry, done.

Just don't add meat or dairy products. It can attract vermin.

I understand that the City of Mississauga passed a law that requires its residents to compost.
 
Why would the rabbits eat my old composting veggie waste when they can get fresh vegetables right out of my garden!
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They're lucky they're so cuddly and adorable or I'd be trying to trap them.
 
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