Comparing Full Synthetic 5W-30 Oils

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Originally Posted By: Dwane17
Nice job gathering and laying out ZeeOSix.

Which one stands out to you, and why?

Thanks


I'm leaning towards Valvoline Advanced because of the high HTHS and the low NOACK. I'd sure like to know that the missing HTHS and NOACK data specs are for the ones I couldn't find info on. Also considering Castrol Magnatec due to the car not being driven on a daily basis and sits a while between drives, so if the Magnatec helps reduce cold start-up wear than that might be the biggest plus.

I wish the oil manufactures gave some kind of standard "shearing spec" on their oils.
 
Originally Posted By: parshisa
but that is pure true mate, no [censored]

. please read carefully and beware haha



Proof that you have nothing of substance to add to this conversation.
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
I'm leaning towards Valvoline Advanced because of the high HTHS and the low NOACK.


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Blackstone Labs recently revealed that wear patterns in engines do not seem to be dependent upon the brand of oil used. In phone conversations with the tech there, I found out he uses Wal-Mart SuperTech Full Synthetic in his vehicles. I've been using that stuff in my internal combustion gasoline engines for years and am pleased with the results. Regular, frequent oil changes are the key to engine longevity, not oil brand.
 
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Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: parshisa
none of the oils listed is full synthetic

Find a real SN/GF-5 certified oil that is, if you're insisting upon majority Group IV or V content.


Any M1 0W-20?
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Based on the specifications listed in this summary table, which full synthetic 5W-30 would you use and why?

It seems that you are attempting some prestidigitation here with the chart, whether you realize it or not.
No amount of analysis based on the information provided is going to result in a testable conclusion that any one of the listed options is better than the others for normal automotive operational conditions.

You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise.

But for some, it is fun to talk about!
 
Comon there guys! I don’t try to hurt anyone’s feelings and of course not saying one oil is better then other! All i said, that these oils are NOT synthesized therefore cannot be label ans SYNTHETIC. That’s it.
 
I don't think anyone's hurt about it, but my point is simply you won't find may, or perhaps any, 5w-30 ILSAC technical synthetics. Expensive base stocks aren't needed to make a 5w-30 that passes dexos1, the Honda turbo spec, and A5/B5.
 
That’s cool. I just find it funny that people are trying to emphasize that they are using FULL SYNTHETIC when it’s really not. That’s all
 
Originally Posted By: parshisa
That’s cool. I just find it funny that people are trying to emphasize that they are using FULL SYNTHETIC when it’s really not. That’s all


People are just referring to the name on the container. It's what the industry considers full synthetic. You're not providing education to the unwashed.
 
Originally Posted By: TheLawnRanger
Originally Posted By: parshisa
That’s cool. I just find it funny that people are trying to emphasize that they are using FULL SYNTHETIC when it’s really not. That’s all


People are just referring to the name on the container. It's what the industry considers full synthetic. You're not providing education to the unwashed.


Yep, all those bottles say "Full Synthetic" on them, so apparently they fall into whatever definition the industry considers "full synthetic" these days.
 
Originally Posted By: parshisa
That’s cool. I just find it funny that people are trying to emphasize that they are using FULL SYNTHETIC when it’s really not. That’s all




It is an endless argument here determining what is synthetic and what is not. The group 3 oils of today labeled as synthetic perform just as well as their group 4 and 5 counterparts. Most have baseoils consisting of all three groups.

It is what it is. Anyone can run the oil of their choice. This bickering that my brand is better than yours gets very old.
 
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: parshisa
That’s cool. I just find it funny that people are trying to emphasize that they are using FULL SYNTHETIC when it’s really not. That’s all




It is an endless argument here determining what is synthetic and what is not. The group 3 oils of today labeled as synthetic perform just as well as their group 4 and 5 counterparts. Most have baseoils consisting of all three groups.

It is what it is. Anyone can run the oil of their choice. This bickering that my brand is better than yours gets very old.


Consumer reports tells you they are all the same and there is no clear advantage of one over the other. So its mostly all personal prejudice and hype beyond that.
 
We could try the label that says, " Highly Refined Motor Oil."

Just don't think the marketers would like that new title
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Originally Posted By: parshisa
Comon there guys! I don’t try to hurt anyone’s feelings and of course not saying one oil is better then other! All i said, that these oils are NOT synthesized therefore cannot be label ans SYNTHETIC. That’s it.

Is the hydrocracked Group III Pennzoil Ultra Platinum a synthetic? It is constructed from single carbon atom feedstock.

And they can label it like they wish. Why can't they?
 
Cuz all that is just marketing scam that has been legalized in agreement with the government to increase profits.

I wonder if I haven't had a word "amsoil" in my signature, what would be y'alls reaction to my post? it is hilarious indeed
 
Originally Posted By: parshisa
Cuz all that is just marketing scam that has been legalized in agreement with the government to increase profits.

I wonder if I haven't had a word "amsoil" in my signature, what would be y'alls reaction to my post? it is hilarious indeed

Lol I never noticed your signature. It has no bearing on any of my remarks if you were directing that to me. And FYI it was never illegal, whatever "it" is exactly that you are referring to.

Is the hydrocracked Group III Pennzoil Ultra Platinum a synthetic?
 
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