No thanks.
Cold Weather And EV's
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Another no thanks.
Today, but what does that look like in 5, 10 years once the mandates on EVs kick in? When less affluent folks need a one car because that's all they can afford.
Will these issues be resolved by then?
I live in a very cold part of Canada, in a geographical area that produces those metals used in EVs.
Trucks, mining equipment need to work long, hard and reliably. EVs can't touch that kind of work. And yes, I've heard of mines going electric. And I also speak with the miners using these vehicles.
Ford has the answer in that lightning owners manual. To extend you range in cold weather do not use the heater use the seat and steering wheel heater instead. LOL
This ^^^^^^^^^
I keep hearing from the EV lovers, "EV's are coming! And these issues will be resolved!"..... Great, when? Can you give me a date, like the government has when they are no longer going to allow ICE vehicles to be sold?
And at what date will they be able to produce batteries that function in below freezing temperatures? Along with chargers that actually work? In the meantime, you are required to have at least 2 vehicles, so one of them is actually capable of getting you to where you need to go.
Weren’t all of the cars utter crap in the 70’s as emissions controls took a decade plus to mature? Nobody liked that, but the 90’s had some nice reliable cars, even the 2000’s.
The various grandfathering of existing vehicles will last for quite sometime. Just buy what you want, keep it for 20 years. No small order I know.
The various grandfathering of existing vehicles will last for quite sometime. Just buy what you want, keep it for 20 years. No small order I know.
In January of 1975 I drove my mothers 1974 Chevy Nova from Chicago to Key West, Florida in under 30 hours. Not a problem all the way. Try that with a EV today.
From a performance standpoint yes, but you didn’t have to worry (too much) about not finding gas. EV’s have the opposite problem, they offer great performance but whether or not the charging stations are online is a different matter.
I couldn’t do that in an ICE today. Need too many naps.
Bring your own battery. ie Milwaukee battery heated jacket.
This past friday, I drove 1350 miles, from SWF airport in Newburgh, NY to Scranton, PA to Jupiter, FL in one day, 19 hours with traffic in my 20 year old car. Filled up 3x, at 5 min each. No other stops.
EV's can't do that. Tesla has the Model 3 making 9-10 charge stops, some as long as 45 minutes (that's if you leave with a full battery, which I can't do as there is nowhere for me to charge up there) and 26 hours trip time. Sorry but I can't stay up that long. This turns the trip into 2, 13 hour days and gets me home a full day later.
When I drive in winter, I prefer to not wear a coat (though I do keep one in the car if i have a breakdown). So this means the heater is on high, the seat warmers are on. All things that are discouraged for EV winter driving.
And sitting around in zero degree weather waiting for my turn at the charge station can get old fast.
This particular problem is a (non tesla) charger problem, not the cars problem.
Not to say EV's dont have cold weather concerns.
I guess quality is still job one over there, oh and Ford has the better idea.
I'm in the car business. Those cheap and cheerful rides as I call them are rare today.
Have customers looking for a decent certified $10,000 to $12,000 car. Can't find them.
Lack of supply on small inexpensive vehicles and high demand means prices on these have gone up 50% to 100%.
Changes to the automotive business by C.... and EV mandates will be felt for decades.
All I see is everything auto related has gotten and will get much, much more expensive.
I've seen my range drop, but no issues. When I buy EV, I buy one with EPA rated range 200% my daily commute. I just don't really have any problem having owned an EV for a few months, now. They work great if you are in a position to only have to drive 100 mi a day or so.
Ultimately, the question is...how often do you do this? I don't really do this that often. If you do, then maybe not an EV.
To me the EV discussions are fascinating mostly not for the technical aspects but for the cultural elements. We are entering maybe the most profound tech/societal evolution this country has ever seen. It is still very unclear if the EV changes will be simply the creation of a new niche or a complete revolution in our transportation system and its ancillary infrastuctures. This Venn diagram captures the essence of these changes but I believe it (purposely?) leaves out the environmental aspects and the concomitant and annoying virtue signaling.
I fall somewhere in the blue circle. Does any of this describe you?
I fall somewhere in the blue circle. Does any of this describe you?