Clover and Creeping Charlie lawn advice

[SHOZ]

Racoon poop all over the place here But they do it in groupings as communal latrines usually around trees. Right now the raspberries and mulberries are what's on the menu.

 

[tbm5690]

They go in specific areas and we always pick up right after them with doggy bags. The urine is sprayed off with a hose into a large garden area covered in large sized gravel. I know...it sounds rather gross but it works well for us. Before, when we had grass the dogs would track mud into the house after they did their business. The grass would also get unattractive dead patches in it from the urine. And the dogs actually made little trails in the back yard (it rains a lot in the winter here).

I get it, I didn't want my dog ruining my grass so I trained her to use a cedar chip bed in the corner of my yard behind the shed for all her business. No killed grass, and no dog bombs to hit with the mower or my feet. My kiddo can kick a ball around and not worry about it which is great.

 

[PF52]

Don't kill clover. I plant clover, 4 types depending on area.

My grass is very sparse and patchy; I rely on the moss and clover to fill in the bare spots!

 

[SHOZ]

My grass is very sparse and patchy; I rely on the moss and clover to fill in the bare spots!

I get moss bad under the spruce trees. I've found raking when the frost is heaving in the spring and it comes right up. That is if you don't want it.

 

[PF52]

I get moss bad under the spruce trees. I've found raking when the frost is heaving in the spring and it comes right up. That is if you don't want it.

I like the moss. I'm real careful not to damage it when raking since if it gets pulled up, it'll just be a mud spot there until something grows back.

Bottom line, is I have too much shade.

 

[SHOZ]

Yes shade is a big issue. I have got where I can get grass to grow. Key is a fescue that can take the shade and not mowing when it's dry. I usually am casting seed from late summer to spring in the areas that need it. Most will sprout up by spring time. But cutting short and when it's dry will kill it.

Second year of a quasi drought for us here. We get timely rains for corn but it's hard for grass.

 

[Donald]

Clover is typical of low nitrogen soil. Clover plants can essentially make nitrogen for the soil. Basically bacteria that hang onto the clover roots pull nitrogen from the air and convert it to nitrogen for the soil.

Southern Ag broadleaf weed killer for lawns is similar to Trimec minus one ingredient. Basically 2,4-D and one or two other ingredients. Tzone is another. They do a great job on broadleaf weeds. Grass weeds are harder.

Many need a second application of weed killer 2-3 weeks latter. Get it done before the summer heat. You don't want to spray the stuff above about 90F.

But the best is weed prevention. Basically a lush thriving green lawn cut at 3.5" will take care of most weeds on its own.

 

[thastinger]

That's what I use and add some Quinclorac to it for violets.

Still looking for something that will kill Thorny Greenbriar......

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Have you tried dismiss? It is expensive enough that I think they sell it in single use packs.

 

[Highlander 1459]

life is much easier if you give up on having a well maintained lawn and are content with it being anything green and mowable... just saying.

 

[SHOZ]

Looks like I need some Triclopyr for the Bristly Greenbriar. Probably have some in the cabinet from before the EPA days....

I have so many different types of grass in the lawn I'm just happy it's relatively weed free, due to high mowing, and spot spraying, and green. My ex neighbor for 25 years used crabgrass preventer then a mid spring weed and feed. Mowed with a push mower on the 1/2 acer. Nice lawn. New owner mows about 2 inches at best. Doesn't have to pick up the branches that way.

But most here mow about 2.5 inches or less and it's all crabgrass coming in this time of year. I guess it's green, grows fast too after a rain.